Travis Turner, CEO, HZB and Noah Cook, President, HZB LA, talk about converting CBD to THC and the implications of the farm …
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Just buy normal weed from your local plug fuck all this lab converting bullshit that BARELY get you high. I think this mild high you get is from CBD. And because CBD has the effect to lower anxiety a tiny bit, people immediately started making up shit like “oh its marijuana light”. No, it’s just CBD.
Hello, believe it or not, I had a bad trip with CBD. I have read that cbd can be converted to THC when ingested. I took a large dose because I am insomniac either: 3 capsules of 20mg + a herbal tea of 2g of flowers dosed at 18% cbd. 1 hour later I was high, hot all over my body, red eyes, I no longer felt my body the impression of being everywhere … the effects lasted 4 hours and made me anxious, the next day I was still not well because I didn't hadn't slept. It was 2x more potent than the joints I smoked when I was young!
I found few studies which speak of cbd converted into thc but it is not unrecognized, the cause would be a hypersecretion of gastric liquid in the stomach … to be confirmed, in any case my experience is real and the products consumed are certified 0.2% thc…
So, can someone explain to me why take this convoluted route rather than growing some TRUE AFGHANICA and just harvest straight up Delta-9 THC resin? Why are we trying to compete with what nature does best? Obviously government wants legal weed to be the analouge of processed wheat…not the full spectrum product in its natural ratios, but rather a unidimensional and semisynthetic one. It's no secret that legal weed is inferior in many aspects to the hybrids being produced pre 2014. You can't expect to have fibrous leaning plants to produce the richness in resin and terpene content that woody plants do.Obviously from a producers point of view its better to grow these hemp and rudderalis leaning hybrids cause they are less energy intensive grown indoors and less environmental controls grown outdoors. Now to top it up the norm is most legal weed is nothing but hemp sprayed with distillate. The legalization movement took advantage of a generational shift to normalize this trend for the up and coming millennial consumer. Those of us who have been smoking since the 90's know what's up. So glad I moved out of the PNW, which is ground zero for this sham. I can finally smoke real 90 day tree of Afghan lineage.
It’s not true that you can just do chemical conversions on a legal product and think that the resulting reaction is automatically legal – all the precursors to methamphetamine are legal but once you systhetically change those precursors it falls on the illegal side of the law – synthetically converted thc is still illegal thc under the federal laws
Any product that contains .3% or more delta 9 thc is considered marijuana and not hemp regardless of which plant it originally came from and thus is controlled.
This is crazy because I went to local hemp shop in wi and asked about delta 8 because where I live cannabis high in delta 9 thc is illegal medical and recreational but because of the law with hemp here we can sell cbd and delta 9 thc has to be 0.03%. But because they can take cbd and convert it into delta 8 thc, it’s totally legal to sell it in a concentrated form. Anyways it’s pretty much the same as delta 9 but I can tell a little difference just on the potency between the two. And seems like delta 8 starts to wear off after 25/30 min where delta 9 can last up to 90 min for me. So with all this conversions I don’t see why they don’t just legalize all cannabinoids because cbd can basically be shipped anywhere and if laws change where delta 8 now becomes illegal people will just start converting it them self’s and sell it off the black market.
It's called an acid catalyzed cyclization; the terminal ally group double bond becomes protonated by an acid which results in a positive charge on the tertiary carbon, next the lone electrons on the closest -OH phenol group conduct a nucleophilic attack on the positively charged carbon resulting in a positive charge on the phenol group, finally the the phenol ground is deprontonated to give a ground state ether oxygen as part of a newly formed six member ring.
This is not a difficult thing to do even at a large scale. Even to get a large ratio of delta 9 to delta 8. It is simple, hire a synthetic organic chemist, maybe even me if you would like. These are silly sales guys who are incompetent.
all I know and I have heard are rumors that it was done from "oil" maybe extracted with butane or ethanol and then some strong acid like sulphuric acid was used …. I doubt it is true because sulphuric acid can actually burn organic matter … so the sulphuric acid can not be that pure ….. there is hydrochloric acid in your stomach but I think that some CBD gets converted to THC in your stomach might also be a rumor …. oils make soap with bases , so you might end up with soap when neutralizing that thing
I'm so glad this is mentioned. Read Marijuana Botany for exactly how the isomerization is done. Acid is used to bump up Delta 6 THC to Delta 9 as well as cannabinoids being converted to THC. Funny how the legal weed industry has no clue about this. Really it's sad. BTW does any one mention THCV ? Nope just a total bull shit numer on the percentage of THC . What type of THC ? No one cares. There is only significant amounts of THC in trichromes . Have you ever looked closely at ripe flowers? What percentage of the flower is made up of trichromes ? And trichromes are not pure THC.
Hi! I live in France where THC weed is illegal but we have CBD flowers…from industrial hemp…most of the outdoor taste and smell like hay but recently there is indoor who taste and smell like weed should…it is pleasant to smoke! I am not sure I get everything but if they really know a way to transform CBD into THC and if it is doable at home…well they gonna make huge money here in Europe as long as THC will remain illegal…and I would love to make a partnership with them! I hope you will keep an eye on it! Have a lifted one and lots of good vibes from France growers family
Only matters to people trying to make money off it. As a smoker I don't want converted distillate garbage I want real thc9. These clowns are hotdog water hustlers. Go green or go greed?!
Just buy normal weed from your local plug fuck all this lab converting bullshit that BARELY get you high. I think this mild high you get is from CBD. And because CBD has the effect to lower anxiety a tiny bit, people immediately started making up shit like “oh its marijuana light”. No, it’s just CBD.
Hello, believe it or not, I had a bad trip with CBD. I have read that cbd can be converted to THC when ingested. I took a large dose because I am insomniac either: 3 capsules of 20mg + a herbal tea of 2g of flowers dosed at 18% cbd. 1 hour later I was high, hot all over my body, red eyes, I no longer felt my body the impression of being everywhere … the effects lasted 4 hours and made me anxious, the next day I was still not well because I didn't hadn't slept. It was 2x more potent than the joints I smoked when I was young!
I found few studies which speak of cbd converted into thc but it is not unrecognized, the cause would be a hypersecretion of gastric liquid in the stomach … to be confirmed, in any case my experience is real and the products consumed are certified 0.2% thc…
I am sure you will find a good way to heal with Weedborn CBD.
I feel like we're trying to cheat the system by sneaking synthesized THC as a legal product under the lawmakers' noses.
Farm bill creates Legal THC? Respectfully, Thats not true Grizzly Bear…
Can you make even lighter version than Delta 8 in future? I’m talking like a light buzz, akin to drinking 1 beer for a non drinker.
funny how delta 8 thc was the byproduct, and now it’s the desired product for these types of reactions
This is the wonderful thing that we called Delta 8 THC here in the future 2021 and in 2021 everybody loves Delta 8
So, can someone explain to me why take this convoluted route rather than growing some TRUE AFGHANICA and just harvest straight up Delta-9 THC resin? Why are we trying to compete with what nature does best? Obviously government wants legal weed to be the analouge of processed wheat…not the full spectrum product in its natural ratios, but rather a unidimensional and semisynthetic one. It's no secret that legal weed is inferior in many aspects to the hybrids being produced pre 2014. You can't expect to have fibrous leaning plants to produce the richness in resin and terpene content that woody plants do.Obviously from a producers point of view its better to grow these hemp and rudderalis leaning hybrids cause they are less energy intensive grown indoors and less environmental controls grown outdoors. Now to top it up the norm is most legal weed is nothing but hemp sprayed with distillate. The legalization movement took advantage of a generational shift to normalize this trend for the up and coming millennial consumer. Those of us who have been smoking since the 90's know what's up. So glad I moved out of the PNW, which is ground zero for this sham. I can finally smoke real 90 day tree of Afghan lineage.
It’s not true that you can just do chemical conversions on a legal product and think that the resulting reaction is automatically legal – all the precursors to methamphetamine are legal but once you systhetically change those precursors it falls on the illegal side of the law – synthetically converted thc is still illegal thc under the federal laws
THC is the plants natural reaction to stress. Low stress, lower THC , HIGH stress , higher THC. Cannabis is hemp.!
Lol. I’m watching this while I vape my Delta 8 pen.
So is Delta-8 safe been smoking it for 3 months now?
The guy on the right is consistently undereducated and the guy on the left needs some social skills😂
The farm bill technically legalized all weed. It's all hemp, call it hemp now guys, that's what it is. Hemp rules
Delta 8 thc is fine.
wonder if its possible to convert THC to THCV what a dream that would be
Any product that contains .3% or more delta 9 thc is considered marijuana and not hemp regardless of which plant it originally came from and thus is controlled.
This is crazy because I went to local hemp shop in wi and asked about delta 8 because where I live cannabis high in delta 9 thc is illegal medical and recreational but because of the law with hemp here we can sell cbd and delta 9 thc has to be 0.03%. But because they can take cbd and convert it into delta 8 thc, it’s totally legal to sell it in a concentrated form. Anyways it’s pretty much the same as delta 9 but I can tell a little difference just on the potency between the two. And seems like delta 8 starts to wear off after 25/30 min where delta 9 can last up to 90 min for me. So with all this conversions I don’t see why they don’t just legalize all cannabinoids because cbd can basically be shipped anywhere and if laws change where delta 8 now becomes illegal people will just start converting it them self’s and sell it off the black market.
let the skinny man talk for fucks sake
Awesome!
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So what happened
Fried
This is beautiful artwork of the mind. I will share for sure liked and Subbed . Peace and Love y'all
It's called an acid catalyzed cyclization; the terminal ally group double bond becomes protonated by an acid which results in a positive charge on the tertiary carbon, next the lone electrons on the closest -OH phenol group conduct a nucleophilic attack on the positively charged carbon resulting in a positive charge on the phenol group, finally the the phenol ground is deprontonated to give a ground state ether oxygen as part of a newly formed six member ring.
Dude on the right sounds like Doug Benson
This is not a difficult thing to do even at a large scale. Even to get a large ratio of delta 9 to delta 8. It is simple, hire a synthetic organic chemist, maybe even me if you would like. These are silly sales guys who are incompetent.
Does the plants are CBD or they convert them into CBD into the lab after they harvest it?
That’s bullshit.
Take cbd isolet the add your t5 reflux 180c for 4 hours let cool then distill.
Why you fools trying to make it seem so hard. Losers
Natures slow reaction produces a cleaner high
There are a bunch of people doing this already. The stuff we had turned into 86% delta 8 with 5% delta 9. It is the wave once you have the knowledge.
What about CBDA to THCA
all I know and I have heard are rumors that it was done from "oil" maybe extracted with butane or ethanol and then some strong acid like sulphuric acid was used …. I doubt it is true because sulphuric acid can actually burn organic matter … so the sulphuric acid can not be that pure ….. there is hydrochloric acid in your stomach but I think that some CBD gets converted to THC in your stomach might also be a rumor …. oils make soap with bases , so you might end up with soap when neutralizing that thing
I'm so glad this is mentioned. Read Marijuana Botany for exactly how the isomerization is done. Acid is used to bump up Delta 6 THC to Delta 9 as well as cannabinoids being converted to THC. Funny how the legal weed industry has no clue about this. Really it's sad. BTW does any one mention THCV ? Nope just a total bull shit numer on the percentage of THC . What type of THC ? No one cares. There is only significant amounts of THC in trichromes . Have you ever looked closely at ripe flowers? What percentage of the flower is made up of trichromes ? And trichromes are not pure THC.
This reaction can be done at home with home products. Making a pure mixture is what takes a little skill.
This is a breakthrough brother man!
all you need is a strong acid ..i used to have an ISO 2 distiller
You can fuck with it all you like but I will always be a flower guy… one love
You guys are amazing! How innovative! Keep up good work
Yawn !!!
Isomerization
Kanamanazhia
Hi! I live in France where THC weed is illegal but we have CBD flowers…from industrial hemp…most of the outdoor taste and smell like hay but recently there is indoor who taste and smell like weed should…it is pleasant to smoke!
I am not sure I get everything but if they really know a way to transform CBD into THC and if it is doable at home…well they gonna make huge money here in Europe as long as THC will remain illegal…and I would love to make a partnership with them!
I hope you will keep an eye on it!
Have a lifted one and lots of good vibes from France growers family
Only matters to people trying to make money off it. As a smoker I don't want converted distillate garbage I want real thc9. These clowns are hotdog water hustlers. Go green or go greed?!