Jim Cornette on Who Is To Blame For Modern Wrestling: Wrestlers Or Promoters?



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  1. No one has done more damage than Vincent K McMahon. However, there would be no Vincent K McMahon without Jack Pferer planting the seeds that lead to him, without Jack Pferer nearly destroying the New York and Chicago territories with his bullshit. Jack, for all of his big talk, only targeted one territory out of malice, however. McMahon went after 41! Even then, it can't be just the bad actors. For all the talk of defending the business the territorial promoters did a piss poor job of it when it was time to literally defend their businesses from McMahon. But in a criminal case "they left the vault open" doesn't hold up as a valid defense. Bill Watts could have done with Vince Junior did, Vincent Sr. could have done what Vince Junior did, but they didn't.

  2. Is it me or do wrestlers not protect finishers any more?!? For example a super kick or a DDT is a very effective move. But I don’t see why I rustler house to do it 20 times in one Match. It makes it seem like the wrestlers that Shawn Michaels or Jake the snake we’re just not good wrestlers and it does a lot of damage to wrestlers now because if you do 20 super kicks and I do one it doesn’t seem believable that a guy would is the match because of my one super kick

  3. The problem is Vince exposed the business in court because he didn’t want to pay the athletic commission in nyc, you could still get away with kayfab in the 90s, that and scripting and no places wrestlers can work off camera to get seasoned

  4. For me Vince killed the secrecy wrestling had. When he came out on national tv and told us it was a predetermine show. Not a sport with some entertaiment but a physical show. I compare it with a magician letting us know the magic is not real. I think wrestling is not protected anymore like it was years ago. I would told it this way is a sport show but the rivalries are real.

  5. times change, and entertainment evolves, it's the only constant. My issue is the core of wrestling is lost, it was always a story no matter what. It seems lost today, mainly in AEW and to a much lesser extent in WWE.
    Wrestlers can do that "flippy stuff" and high spots, but if there's no story I don't care.
    Mick Foley- got tossed off a cage and people were talking. People stayed invested because of Mick Foley's character, not because he got thrown off a cage.

  6. Something a lot of people don't seem to realise (or don't want to) is that wrestling itself as a format is dying.

    Information leaks online, people are less gullible, less violent also, more politically correct than last decades.

    Wrestling needs that edge of the past eras, but that stuff just can't fly nowadays however It's just not compelling with skinny or small guys, family friendly gimmicks, cringe scripts, etc

    Of course it will continue to exist and be profitable enough to continue as many other things but it's natural it got outdated, substituted for other better entertainment, etc

    Same thing that happened to rock music, western movies, written poetry…idk stuff can only be cool and edgy for a certain time before it gets taken over by something cooler.

    No matter how much of a good poet you are or how well your poems rhyme you'll never gonna outdraw mainstream rappers. Your style of written poetry was lit for 1800's but nowadays nobody cares. Same thing with wrestling it's just not a credible big deal anymore even if it was well done.

  7. The fans (lunatics) started running the asylum. It is now lets pretend rather then lets make it look as real as possible and look like it makes sense. It wasn't easy to get into wrestling once upon a time and was guarded carefully by the people inside but now it is a free for all.

  8. It has nothing to do with the wrestlers or promoters. It has everything to do with social media and marks. Plain and simple. Wrestling rumors and news is more important than the show itself.

  9. 11 minutes of video. 4 minutes was discussion and 7 was a plug for a sponsor…

    I know you guys make the ads more entertaining than most, but come on guys. That's fucking ridiculous.

  10. In the end, it's all down to the promoter. They hire the wrestlers they want & dictate what type of matches happen. If you don't want 150 lb guys doing double somersaults or kicking out of 5 consecutive finishers -either chew out the offender, or fire them if it's happened multiple times. If they don't know any better, teach them. That's what developmental territories are supposed to do, same with the performance centre itself. But even without that, there have always been vets on hand to teach the new guys.

  11. The problem is the promoters. Because there are millions of pathetic looking guys in the world who can't wrestle but they fancy themselves as a comedian but all they can do is unfunny comedy, but it's Tony Khan who puts one of these unfunny comedians, Orange Cassidy on TV every week. So the problem, really, is Tony. If it wasn't for Tony I never would have seen that idiot with his hands in his pockets trying to find his limp dick during what was supposed to be a wrestling match. Oh the hilarity of a dumbass with his hands in his pockets.

  12. Could it also be argued that the later 90s and early 2ks was so good and stars were so big in both WWE and WCW that to attempt to follow that act was always mission impossible ?.

    Further with the internet and death of Kay fabe the whole style of wrestling has changed drastically….to where as it's put now its more what moves you can perform that's ohhh ahhhhh as opposed to being able to make people believe what your doing is real

    Wrestlers and promotions are products of the times

    In short and my opinion INTERNET KILLED WRESTLING

  13. There's no place for glass in wrestling. Can you imagine if Dana White had Connor and Nate fight in glass? Could you imagine what would happen to the guy who suggested that to Dana? 🤣

  14. I very much disagree. It is the trainers. They're teaching them to wrestle how they wrestle. Sure, you can't blame the trainers for everything they do, but you can blame them for at least 90% of it. For example, Jim hates the way Orange hits the ropes. It's the trainers fault whether he taught Orange that or not. Why? Because even if the trainer didn't teach him that, he also didn't teach him not to do it. He just let Orange do it that way.

  15. breakdown of a typical jim cornette video

    10% thumbnail
    20% talk about the actual topic
    9000% sponsor ad

    and then a further breakdown of the sponsor ad

    10% info about actual product or sponsor
    70% jim cornette talking about how dangerous this product can be or how shady the sponsor is
    20% brian pretending to protect the sponsor or their product

  16. Wrestling is doing awful? Says who? Indie wrestling promotions are making bank, majors are doing record number of revenue (even inflation adjustments factored in), television rankings are at an all time high where even in the Monday Night Wars wrestling wasn't ranking top 3 week in and week out. We have AEW & WWE ranking #2 and #1 for the night. That is unheard of from years back

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