I had no idea anyone even thought this was a thing. I also never heard of the term "copaganda" before. Like… even if it was a positive reflection on law enforcement, so what? 1 blue man bad = all blue men bad is a childish notion and should be ridiculed.
GTA i crookaganda, it's all about amassing as much capital as possible, eventually becoming filthy rich. Becoming the 1% and thus becoming a minority. Makes sense right? Cops are just like people, there are good and there are some bad. Be well and take care!
ok i gotta disagree the prisons are controlled by major corprations, A total of 27 states and the federal government use private corporations like GEO Group, Core Civic,2 LaSalle Corrections, and Management and Training Corporation to run some of their corrections facilities.
I like how you take some points and agree, then take other points and disprove or disagree. This is how a discussion/argument should be. Calm collected, here is how it is. Nowadays there is so much 'I WILL DISPROVE EVERY SYLLABLE YOU SAY WRONG' and it sucks the humanity from any discussion.
I've seen the two sides. Same coin. Yin and Yang. Just bc you do bad things doesn't always make you a bad person. And just because you use harsh methods to stop bad things from happening, doesn't make you some tyrannical force. Police and branches of the services should only be judged case by case, team by team. If we just lump everything in to a generalization, then even the speech about any group becomes dangerous. Not by itself but, just buy building a false narrative, or even just a loose narrative around it, and not lending a critical eye or ear.
Problem with media today, is that everyone with access to microphone can bark in it. Sad part is that people might listen and not question credibility.
The willingness to dehumanize and demonize an entire group of people as evil is in itself evil, I think the reason hating the police is getting popular is because these people don't really want change, they just possess a reckless disregard for any authority other than their own
The only thing that I get from Gunmetal's video, is that "Everythings rigged, police are bad, they defending only wealth, I'm Batman!". There's nothing ideal in the world, so yeah, there's never gonna be ideal police. But is it really THAT bad? I've never been in America, but considering what Gunmetal saying, the only thing that police doing is beating poor or people with low income and defending wealthy like some kind of PMC. And again, what's the solution? Give every idiot on the street a gun and make them solve every problem themselve? Or make some kind of test so only good cops could work on the force? Or just tear down the entire justice system and make a new one? We all know that no matter what you do, there's always will be cracks in any system. And again what does it have to do with Ready or Not? It's the game about ONE type of police force, the one that go only on critical cases. And it's because it's the easiest theme to make the game out of.
Anyone who calls this game copaganda are watching too much news from the Left. This game is not copaganda. Just the fact that it punishes players for killing without just cause and not following procedure is enough to tell me that it isnāt.
You should do this more, this is incredibly insightful even though I've kinda been more pro-police leaning to begin with and even some views already in this video but, this video still gave me a fresh perspective, there were some things here I didn't even think of thinking about, I'm obviously not flipping my whole opinions because of THIS video but it does make me think and I quite like that, good job dude.
Edit: Sorry if there's bad grammar it was 1am when I made this comment and its 2am when I made this edit, goodnight.
while I agree that the game doesn't constitute copaganda, there is some issue with a few points you make here.
under Discretion, you describe how you as a good cop use your discretion to not enforce unconstitutional drug scheduling laws, which is good, but you also describe how you destroy or steal the personal property of the victim by having "just told them to stomp it out" (I'm assuming this means to destroy their property or else be prosecuted for it) or "seize the pipe and give them a class c citation instead of sending them to jail." the contention many people have with cops, and why many people say there are no good cops, is because the best you can expect to find is someone who merely destroys or steals your personal property. (if you partake in that sort of activity- although civil asset forfeiture means you need not be a druggist to have your money stolen) the issue is that cops largely do not protect rights, but act as a destructive organism latched onto the denizens.
under Targeted Laws, while I'm not an intersectionalist commie and I don't so much care that injustice happens to minorities as that the injustice happens at all; I do take umbrage with the argument that since you're not forcing minorities to do x drug, therefore it's on them if you persecute them for their use of the drug because 'muh laws.' take a hypothetical for instance: if, for stated reasons of food safety, gefilte fish, challah, and mozza ball soup were outlawed, we would not say that the resulting roundup of the Hasidim (orthodox jews) is their fault and that they should have just followed the law, we would see the law in question as a naked attempt at persecution and we would shame any thugs willing to enforce that law. and to be clear, from the inception of drug law in the US, it was the case that mexicans and blacks disproportionately used marijuana, (see as far back as the propaganda film Reefer Madness) which was not illegal until it was outlawed, (duh) so it cannot be that the use by that demographic is entirely a romanticization of criminal culture.
I view cops as (most of the time) unwitting street gang members. can some be mostly tolerable people? sure. can they be friendly? it depends, did you pay this month's extortion fee? the best are blatantly aware and actively, if clandestinely, working against the tyrannical leanings of their departments; but it is unsettling when you can never trust whether this one is one that will unalive you and your family if he finds out you have a spicy gun, or if that one respects the constitution, because it cannot be said aloud.
I've never played or looked into Ready Or Not. But I have seen SWAT4, and in that game two very big things jump out at me: 1) You CANNOT get a perfect score if you use lethal force at all, even with correct procedure. You can still get a passing score with lethal force, but never the full 100/100. As you can imagine, going up against armed suspects with less-than-lethal options only is not a welcoming prospect… 2) As with real SWAT officers, you must handcuff everyone, including hostages and witnesses. And there's a random chance (roughly 50%) the innocent bystanders won't just go along with this. You're stuck in this level, having gone through a stressful standoff, possibly wounded, and now these uppity people won't stand still for the handcuffs and let you leave.
On the broader socioeconomic philosophy, I believe in the concept of police. We are flawed animals and if we are going to have laws at all, I believe the concept of enforcing those laws is conceptually good. At the same time, no system built by humans is ever perfect, and if black people in Richmond and Oakland are going to tell me the existing police need reform into better police, I'm not going to tell them no
Great video, just one tiny thing I wanted to say about your point that minorities disproportionately use drugs: I don't think there is higher drug use in those communities due to idolization. I'd say rather than idolization, poverty is in part what causes disproportionate drug use in these communities. Poverty causes higher stress and hopelessness, which we know are factors that are more likely to lead to drug use. Then there's also the fact that it's easier to fall into poverty if addicted to drugs, which only leads to a higher concentration of addicts/users in poorer areas (which tend to be inhabited by a higher percentage of minorities than richer areas). Basically what I'm trying to say is, poorer areas are more inclined statistically to have higher drug use than richer ones, and even if culture plays a role, I don't think it's the cause that should be highlighted.
The original creator of the video you reacted to sounds to be a little on the left, mayyybbbbeeee just a tinsey tiny bit leaning left, and on a unrelated note letās send this anti police guy to Serbia and he can actually see white nationalism
I am not an American but from what I seen you Americans fail to see that the main corruption isn't from the everyday average cops corruption start from the top and fall down the big heads are the corrupt ones if the corrupt big heads on top got removed and replaced with people with more integrity the average corrupt small time officer will be more fearful to be corrupt because it will be much more harder to get away with it now
Iāve had a many interactions with police and Iāve only ever had 1 bad one. And looking back I understand in someways why the officers took they action they did, it was 2 female officers and I am a tall guy whoās as wearing a black tracksuit. I always say this to all my friends, if you are respectful honest to and admit to whatās happened your more than likely to be let off with a warning. At the end of day police officers are humans who just want to go home at the end of the day. Donāt get me wrong I know there are so many issues within the law which officers have to enforce, especially here in the UK. But I really think your video needs to seen by more people! You sound like such an amazing officer by giving people a second chance!
I'll open this overly long comment by saying; solid showing from you on this one! Also HUGE props for acknowledging that police aren't above the law. Thank you!
With that out of the way, I'll say this. On one hand, I don't think Gunmetal's points are entirely wrong. For instance I really don't care for weed and most stoners are I know are lazy pieces of shit who can't hold a job. But in all probability, the mass incarceration of random people for possession of that dumb fucking plant is probably going to be viewed as human rights crisis in hindsight, and people are going to wonder why we inflicted the harm we did to society over a drug that is arguably less harmful than alcohol. "How could that be normal," they'll ask? Turns out all of history could be construed as a human rights crisis, and we normalized it back then too. We're just good at it.
Point is, I do see a very limited amount of merit in Gunmetal's conclusions. Yeah, the state isn't your friend, and even the most noble police can't have clean hands if they continue to enforce unjust laws, or refuse to turn in their colleagues who abuse their authority. That doesn't make them bad people, per se, though they aren't saints either. But who is? Certainly not me. Besides, there are very real consequences for not enforcing the law, or for snitching on dirty cops. It's dangerous to be principled when in a position of authority. I can't be too hard on the average cop, even if I'm not terribly happy with him right now.
THAT BEING SAID. Gunmetal's arguments are so canned, thoughtless, and mainstream, that I really can't respect them. They're so STALE too. Hello – the 60's called, and they want their talking points back. It's just the same regurgitated garbage presented as factual claims. He doesn't have any sort of real argument or critical thought backing them up. If I wanted to witness brainrot and a lack of independent thinking then I'd go hit up Megaloponera Foetens. You said you were disappointed because he was capable of deep, complex thought, and IMO you're being way too diplomatic. What he presented is SUCH a limited, reductionist, prepackaged analysis of the problem that I feel it genuinely insults my intelligence. I could offer a genuine complex analysis but I really don't feel the need to write an even longer essay in the youtube comments. I will throw a little bit out there, though, I guess. Just to prove I do have a different analysis, and I'm not just talking big.
Put simply, the poor aren't the normal targets of malicious legislation. The poor, by definition, have very little worth taking. But we can see from history (and certainly in present times) that the wealthy always want more, and the poor always want whatever they can get. The historical norm is that both of these groups cannibalize the middle class (if there is one). The middle class has enough resources to be worth taking, but it lacks the resources to defend itself from lawfare, or from the violence of the poor who have nothing to lose by going to prison. The poor are often weaponized by the wealthy AGAINST the middle class. And the police are often used as tools in this class warfare. Ruling institutions may order the police to NOT prosecute criminals, or order them to prosecute people who fight back against criminals, or order them to prosecute people for defying transparently unjust laws which are crafted to facilitate wealth transfer. Or they might get ordered to shoot dissidents, though that really hasn't been in vogue since the early 20th century. And that's a brief summary of my hot take on the matter.
God I have too much time on my hands. Thanks for the video.
Oh, holy shit. I am resentful for being suckered into a, "Reply," video or whatever this petty crap is. Just let the man (I'm assume, since apparently a penis is not reflective of manhood anymore) have his dumbass opinion and move on.
I am all for hearing you out. However, do not want to listen to some moron's pseudo-revolutionary rhetoric in the process.
I wish people would stop doing these and just be secure with what they believe in.
Glad you survived wearing the badge. If you catch me out, it's an open offer to buy you a coffee.
It's life, liberty and PROPERTY, though. Also "judeo-Christian" is the stupidest phrase on the planet. Jews hate Christ read the Talmud. They reject Christ entirely.
The rich elite do set legislation by lobbying, otherwise people's votes would determine laws (which they don't.) However cops aren't responsible for that, and most of the laws are related to taxes, and other business advantages.
Supreme court even ruled that police have no responsibility to protect us. There may be good ones out there but you cant say you're for peoples rights with all the people dying to police hands to this day.
The video your reacting to is using historical facts and not anecdotes while you are. Iād recommend doing research on the history of police both from when police were first being founded to now. They still are used by the wealthy just not in direct ways or even ways you can notice. Walking up to you and handing out cash to do something is not the only way to get police to do something. Lobbying is a huge thing right now and it seriously impacts the way things move.
For me the problem doesn't come from the depiction of the police officers as heroes, as someone from a country that loves its police officer, I believe that the way the motivations of the police characters depicted is well and good but my problem lies with the depictions of the criminals. Almost in all scenarios in the game, the criminals are depicted as fully motivated, well armed and well trained mercenaries at numbers that would require more than just 4 officers to handle. They don't feel like criminals, they aren't your average drug addict on withdrawal or OD, they aren't your average stalker or even a mass shooter. They feel more like foreign combatants the game tried hard to convince you are average Joe's going the wrong way in life. Real life swat operations are a little less exciting than that, I understand from a game design perspective but to claim to be a simulation while sending 4 officers against a battalion of combatants armed with RPDs and AKs it just feels like a parody.
Swat 4 was better in this area, you had genuine criminals which made you feel bad for some of them as well as organized mafia like the mercenaries attacking the hospital or the diamond heist or even the Stetchkov syndicate while also showing plausible criminals like the fairfax and cultists of Tarone.
Ready or not just feels like a milsim that pretends to be a police simulation that punishes you for killing lawful combatants in Afghanistan. That guy has an RPD, bring the Bradley.
I agree with the video, although, theirs one problem with cops that makes them extremely faulty, they aren't legally supposed to protect you, unless your in their custody, they technically only protect private property, who owns private property, the rich. I still think at this current moment and time cops are our best option, but they need to be slowly turned into something more reliable, or change the law were they actually have to protect you.
The term "copaganda" is thrown around far too much lately. I've heard people unironically refer to LA Noire as copaganda. LA Noire! A game that actively portrays and critiques the corruption of the LAPD and justice system as a major part of the story. It seems a lot like any game, movie or television series that stars an officer as a major character and portrays said officer in a somewhat positive light is copaganda to people.
To be frank, as somebody who saw and studied how communism did… the person you answer is an example of "useful idiot" that would lead to disbanding of the police to install militia (that actually did exactly what he did say police does, also would get rid of those usefull idiots once they're no longer needed) that would be footsoldiers for the communists in the power. Look at 1980s Martial Law state in Poland for a reference.
I've had good and bad experiences with officers, had my ass saved from doing a stupid, and I've been screwed over for trying to do the right thing. Most officers are just dudes trying to do a job. It's a job I often hate, and especially durring COVID and the BLM/antifa riots I admittedly had a massive hateboner for the police as an organization, esecially city police forces.
Ready or not has never once given me the feeling of glorifying cops, you simply play as a squad with a mission to do. And regardless (please correct me if I'm wrong) S.W.A.T teams fall into a different catagory than your around the town cops. I would think its a bit like compairing your average 11b (infantryman) in the 101st airborne to a guy in 5th group special forces. They share a base, work together often, and have similar job descriptions but they fill very different roles.
i think this video gives a lot of nuance to the topic but a lot of your refutals do not make sense.
for example, when gunmetal says that lobbyists make and shape laws to incarcerate instead of protect, since prison labour is wildly profitable, you try to counter by saying that you personally have never made the experience of a rich person making you arrest someone for drug possession.
i know the point you are trying to make is that its kind of out of your hands. but the original point is that you, as a protector of civil liberities should be the very first to speak out about stuff like that, but instead remain to be the force that stops those that do. even without talking about riots there's enough footage of peaceful protesters being mistreated.
from an outside perspective, granted, but it seems that the bad apples that do that, can only do that because the good cops let them. everyone knows that just because one cop peppersprayed a line of people sitting down it doesnt mean every cop would do that, but police chiefs and unions seem to always protect these individuals tooth and nail.
also you say things like drug use within black communities is a result of romantization within our society instead, or mostly instead, of poverty.
people dont take drugs because there's rap tracks about it. they do it because their lives suck, since they never had the same chance at life as others cuz the state pulls the funding out of education to use it for their police forces in order to create more cheap prison labour.
i agree that it's not copaganda and you do make a lot of great points at times with more nuance than gunmetal but you seem to miss the central issue.
Every Police department is different. They all have a different amount of good and bad people and a different number of resources they get from the state. They may all have a same kind of look but every single one has a different person with different thoughts and struggles that they go through and stuff that they deal with while on duty and off duty.
most repruduced part:
āWe sleep soundly in our beds, because rough men stand ready in the night to do violence on those who would harm usā
Orwell
Agree 100% minus the part about the fbi, those guys have done little to overeach
Glad I watched this video instead of Gunmetalās
I had no idea anyone even thought this was a thing. I also never heard of the term "copaganda" before. Like… even if it was a positive reflection on law enforcement, so what? 1 blue man bad = all blue men bad is a childish notion and should be ridiculed.
GTA i crookaganda, it's all about amassing as much capital as possible, eventually becoming filthy rich. Becoming the 1% and thus becoming a minority. Makes sense right?
Cops are just like people, there are good and there are some bad.
Be well and take care!
ok i gotta disagree the prisons are controlled by major corprations, A total of 27 states and the federal government use private corporations like GEO Group, Core Civic,2 LaSalle Corrections, and Management and Training Corporation to run some of their corrections facilities.
I like how you take some points and agree, then take other points and disprove or disagree. This is how a discussion/argument should be. Calm collected, here is how it is. Nowadays there is so much 'I WILL DISPROVE EVERY SYLLABLE YOU SAY WRONG' and it sucks the humanity from any discussion.
I've seen the two sides. Same coin. Yin and Yang. Just bc you do bad things doesn't always make you a bad person. And just because you use harsh methods to stop bad things from happening, doesn't make you some tyrannical force. Police and branches of the services should only be judged case by case, team by team. If we just lump everything in to a generalization, then even the speech about any group becomes dangerous. Not by itself but, just buy building a false narrative, or even just a loose narrative around it, and not lending a critical eye or ear.
Problem with media today, is that everyone with access to microphone can bark in it. Sad part is that people might listen and not question credibility.
The willingness to dehumanize and demonize an entire group of people as evil is in itself evil, I think the reason hating the police is getting popular is because these people don't really want change, they just possess a reckless disregard for any authority other than their own
The only thing that I get from Gunmetal's video, is that "Everythings rigged, police are bad, they defending only wealth, I'm Batman!". There's nothing ideal in the world, so yeah, there's never gonna be ideal police. But is it really THAT bad? I've never been in America, but considering what Gunmetal saying, the only thing that police doing is beating poor or people with low income and defending wealthy like some kind of PMC. And again, what's the solution? Give every idiot on the street a gun and make them solve every problem themselve? Or make some kind of test so only good cops could work on the force? Or just tear down the entire justice system and make a new one? We all know that no matter what you do, there's always will be cracks in any system. And again what does it have to do with Ready or Not? It's the game about ONE type of police force, the one that go only on critical cases. And it's because it's the easiest theme to make the game out of.
Anyone who calls this game copaganda are watching too much news from the Left. This game is not copaganda. Just the fact that it punishes players for killing without just cause and not following procedure is enough to tell me that it isnāt.
You should do this more, this is incredibly insightful even though I've kinda been more pro-police leaning to begin with and even some views already in this video but, this video still gave me a fresh perspective, there were some things here I didn't even think of thinking about, I'm obviously not flipping my whole opinions because of THIS video but it does make me think and I quite like that, good job dude.
Edit: Sorry if there's bad grammar it was 1am when I made this comment and its 2am when I made this edit, goodnight.
while I agree that the game doesn't constitute copaganda, there is some issue with a few points you make here.
under Discretion, you describe how you as a good cop use your discretion to not enforce unconstitutional drug scheduling laws, which is good, but you also describe how you destroy or steal the personal property of the victim by having "just told them to stomp it out" (I'm assuming this means to destroy their property or else be prosecuted for it) or "seize the pipe and give them a class c citation instead of sending them to jail." the contention many people have with cops, and why many people say there are no good cops, is because the best you can expect to find is someone who merely destroys or steals your personal property. (if you partake in that sort of activity- although civil asset forfeiture means you need not be a druggist to have your money stolen) the issue is that cops largely do not protect rights, but act as a destructive organism latched onto the denizens.
under Targeted Laws, while I'm not an intersectionalist commie and I don't so much care that injustice happens to minorities as that the injustice happens at all; I do take umbrage with the argument that since you're not forcing minorities to do x drug, therefore it's on them if you persecute them for their use of the drug because 'muh laws.' take a hypothetical for instance: if, for stated reasons of food safety, gefilte fish, challah, and mozza ball soup were outlawed, we would not say that the resulting roundup of the Hasidim (orthodox jews) is their fault and that they should have just followed the law, we would see the law in question as a naked attempt at persecution and we would shame any thugs willing to enforce that law.
and to be clear, from the inception of drug law in the US, it was the case that mexicans and blacks disproportionately used marijuana, (see as far back as the propaganda film Reefer Madness) which was not illegal until it was outlawed, (duh) so it cannot be that the use by that demographic is entirely a romanticization of criminal culture.
I view cops as (most of the time) unwitting street gang members. can some be mostly tolerable people? sure. can they be friendly? it depends, did you pay this month's extortion fee? the best are blatantly aware and actively, if clandestinely, working against the tyrannical leanings of their departments; but it is unsettling when you can never trust whether this one is one that will unalive you and your family if he finds out you have a spicy gun, or if that one respects the constitution, because it cannot be said aloud.
The people complaining about "copaganda" need to either come up with a SUPERIOR alternative that's 100% effective OR they need to shut the hell up.
If "all cops are bad" then all HUMANS are equally bad. If "good cops are a fantasy" then good PEOPLE are equally non-existent.
Is that rainbow six 3 map a mod for ready or not?
I've never played or looked into Ready Or Not. But I have seen SWAT4, and in that game two very big things jump out at me:
1) You CANNOT get a perfect score if you use lethal force at all, even with correct procedure. You can still get a passing score with lethal force, but never the full 100/100. As you can imagine, going up against armed suspects with less-than-lethal options only is not a welcoming prospect…
2) As with real SWAT officers, you must handcuff everyone, including hostages and witnesses. And there's a random chance (roughly 50%) the innocent bystanders won't just go along with this. You're stuck in this level, having gone through a stressful standoff, possibly wounded, and now these uppity people won't stand still for the handcuffs and let you leave.
On the broader socioeconomic philosophy, I believe in the concept of police. We are flawed animals and if we are going to have laws at all, I believe the concept of enforcing those laws is conceptually good. At the same time, no system built by humans is ever perfect, and if black people in Richmond and Oakland are going to tell me the existing police need reform into better police, I'm not going to tell them no
Great video, just one tiny thing I wanted to say about your point that minorities disproportionately use drugs: I don't think there is higher drug use in those communities due to idolization. I'd say rather than idolization, poverty is in part what causes disproportionate drug use in these communities. Poverty causes higher stress and hopelessness, which we know are factors that are more likely to lead to drug use. Then there's also the fact that it's easier to fall into poverty if addicted to drugs, which only leads to a higher concentration of addicts/users in poorer areas (which tend to be inhabited by a higher percentage of minorities than richer areas). Basically what I'm trying to say is, poorer areas are more inclined statistically to have higher drug use than richer ones, and even if culture plays a role, I don't think it's the cause that should be highlighted.
like how a game thats well summed up with cop simulator somehow is part of some tinfoil hat conspiracy of how cops are evil
how did we end up here
9:20 ish "judeo christian"
you mean christian
The original creator of the video you reacted to sounds to be a little on the left, mayyybbbbeeee just a tinsey tiny bit leaning left, and on a unrelated note letās send this anti police guy to Serbia and he can actually see white nationalism
I am not an American but from what I seen you Americans fail to see that the main corruption isn't from the everyday average cops corruption start from the top and fall down the big heads are the corrupt ones if the corrupt big heads on top got removed and replaced with people with more integrity the average corrupt small time officer will be more fearful to be corrupt because it will be much more harder to get away with it now
Iāve had a many interactions with police and Iāve only ever had 1 bad one. And looking back I understand in someways why the officers took they action they did, it was 2 female officers and I am a tall guy whoās as wearing a black tracksuit. I always say this to all my friends, if you are respectful honest to and admit to whatās happened your more than likely to be let off with a warning. At the end of day police officers are humans who just want to go home at the end of the day. Donāt get me wrong I know there are so many issues within the law which officers have to enforce, especially here in the UK. But I really think your video needs to seen by more people! You sound like such an amazing officer by giving people a second chance!
I'll open this overly long comment by saying; solid showing from you on this one! Also HUGE props for acknowledging that police aren't above the law. Thank you!
With that out of the way, I'll say this. On one hand, I don't think Gunmetal's points are entirely wrong. For instance I really don't care for weed and most stoners are I know are lazy pieces of shit who can't hold a job. But in all probability, the mass incarceration of random people for possession of that dumb fucking plant is probably going to be viewed as human rights crisis in hindsight, and people are going to wonder why we inflicted the harm we did to society over a drug that is arguably less harmful than alcohol. "How could that be normal," they'll ask? Turns out all of history could be construed as a human rights crisis, and we normalized it back then too. We're just good at it.
Point is, I do see a very limited amount of merit in Gunmetal's conclusions. Yeah, the state isn't your friend, and even the most noble police can't have clean hands if they continue to enforce unjust laws, or refuse to turn in their colleagues who abuse their authority. That doesn't make them bad people, per se, though they aren't saints either. But who is? Certainly not me. Besides, there are very real consequences for not enforcing the law, or for snitching on dirty cops. It's dangerous to be principled when in a position of authority. I can't be too hard on the average cop, even if I'm not terribly happy with him right now.
THAT BEING SAID. Gunmetal's arguments are so canned, thoughtless, and mainstream, that I really can't respect them. They're so STALE too. Hello – the 60's called, and they want their talking points back. It's just the same regurgitated garbage presented as factual claims. He doesn't have any sort of real argument or critical thought backing them up. If I wanted to witness brainrot and a lack of independent thinking then I'd go hit up Megaloponera Foetens. You said you were disappointed because he was capable of deep, complex thought, and IMO you're being way too diplomatic. What he presented is SUCH a limited, reductionist, prepackaged analysis of the problem that I feel it genuinely insults my intelligence. I could offer a genuine complex analysis but I really don't feel the need to write an even longer essay in the youtube comments. I will throw a little bit out there, though, I guess. Just to prove I do have a different analysis, and I'm not just talking big.
Put simply, the poor aren't the normal targets of malicious legislation. The poor, by definition, have very little worth taking. But we can see from history (and certainly in present times) that the wealthy always want more, and the poor always want whatever they can get. The historical norm is that both of these groups cannibalize the middle class (if there is one). The middle class has enough resources to be worth taking, but it lacks the resources to defend itself from lawfare, or from the violence of the poor who have nothing to lose by going to prison. The poor are often weaponized by the wealthy AGAINST the middle class. And the police are often used as tools in this class warfare. Ruling institutions may order the police to NOT prosecute criminals, or order them to prosecute people who fight back against criminals, or order them to prosecute people for defying transparently unjust laws which are crafted to facilitate wealth transfer. Or they might get ordered to shoot dissidents, though that really hasn't been in vogue since the early 20th century. And that's a brief summary of my hot take on the matter.
God I have too much time on my hands. Thanks for the video.
Oh, holy shit. I am resentful for being suckered into a, "Reply," video or whatever this petty crap is. Just let the man (I'm assume, since apparently a penis is not reflective of manhood anymore) have his dumbass opinion and move on.
I am all for hearing you out. However, do not want to listen to some moron's pseudo-revolutionary rhetoric in the process.
I wish people would stop doing these and just be secure with what they believe in.
Glad you survived wearing the badge. If you catch me out, it's an open offer to buy you a coffee.
Cops have no legal obligation to help you as has been shown time and time again thru their actions and thru legislation.
Cops "serve and protect" the powers that be. That is all.
It's life, liberty and PROPERTY, though. Also "judeo-Christian" is the stupidest phrase on the planet. Jews hate Christ read the Talmud. They reject Christ entirely.
Ah a cop telling us what is and ISNT copaganda, just like an ISIS member telling us their not terrorists
What do you think about depiction of police in Disco Elysium?
this is the dumbest argument I have ever heard but considering police departments seek out low IQ hires on purpose thats unsurprising
The rich elite do set legislation by lobbying, otherwise people's votes would determine laws (which they don't.) However cops aren't responsible for that, and most of the laws are related to taxes, and other business advantages.
Why is it that leftists like gunmetal aren't labeled conspiracy theorists? Gunmetal is even more out there than AJones.
The first map looked a lot like a Rainbow 6 Raven Shield map.
Supreme court even ruled that police have no responsibility to protect us. There may be good ones out there but you cant say you're for peoples rights with all the people dying to police hands to this day.
Well this is unfortunate, found your channel through this video, and now i want mire of these video essays that you don't do
Anyone can do good in the world, including the police š
The video your reacting to is using historical facts and not anecdotes while you are. Iād recommend doing research on the history of police both from when police were first being founded to now. They still are used by the wealthy just not in direct ways or even ways you can notice. Walking up to you and handing out cash to do something is not the only way to get police to do something. Lobbying is a huge thing right now and it seriously impacts the way things move.
For me the problem doesn't come from the depiction of the police officers as heroes, as someone from a country that loves its police officer, I believe that the way the motivations of the police characters depicted is well and good but my problem lies with the depictions of the criminals. Almost in all scenarios in the game, the criminals are depicted as fully motivated, well armed and well trained mercenaries at numbers that would require more than just 4 officers to handle. They don't feel like criminals, they aren't your average drug addict on withdrawal or OD, they aren't your average stalker or even a mass shooter. They feel more like foreign combatants the game tried hard to convince you are average Joe's going the wrong way in life. Real life swat operations are a little less exciting than that, I understand from a game design perspective but to claim to be a simulation while sending 4 officers against a battalion of combatants armed with RPDs and AKs it just feels like a parody.
Swat 4 was better in this area, you had genuine criminals which made you feel bad for some of them as well as organized mafia like the mercenaries attacking the hospital or the diamond heist or even the Stetchkov syndicate while also showing plausible criminals like the fairfax and cultists of Tarone.
Ready or not just feels like a milsim that pretends to be a police simulation that punishes you for killing lawful combatants in Afghanistan. That guy has an RPD, bring the Bradley.
I agree with the video, although, theirs one problem with cops that makes them extremely faulty, they aren't legally supposed to protect you, unless your in their custody, they technically only protect private property, who owns private property, the rich. I still think at this current moment and time cops are our best option, but they need to be slowly turned into something more reliable, or change the law were they actually have to protect you.
Cool guys do cool shit with cool guns
Simple as
The term "copaganda" is thrown around far too much lately. I've heard people unironically refer to LA Noire as copaganda. LA Noire! A game that actively portrays and critiques the corruption of the LAPD and justice system as a major part of the story. It seems a lot like any game, movie or television series that stars an officer as a major character and portrays said officer in a somewhat positive light is copaganda to people.
To be frank, as somebody who saw and studied how communism did… the person you answer is an example of "useful idiot" that would lead to disbanding of the police to install militia (that actually did exactly what he did say police does, also would get rid of those usefull idiots once they're no longer needed) that would be footsoldiers for the communists in the power. Look at 1980s Martial Law state in Poland for a reference.
I've had good and bad experiences with officers, had my ass saved from doing a stupid, and I've been screwed over for trying to do the right thing. Most officers are just dudes trying to do a job. It's a job I often hate, and especially durring COVID and the BLM/antifa riots I admittedly had a massive hateboner for the police as an organization, esecially city police forces.
Ready or not has never once given me the feeling of glorifying cops, you simply play as a squad with a mission to do. And regardless (please correct me if I'm wrong) S.W.A.T teams fall into a different catagory than your around the town cops. I would think its a bit like compairing your average 11b (infantryman) in the 101st airborne to a guy in 5th group special forces. They share a base, work together often, and have similar job descriptions but they fill very different roles.
i think this video gives a lot of nuance to the topic but a lot of your refutals do not make sense.
for example, when gunmetal says that lobbyists make and shape laws to incarcerate instead of protect, since prison labour is wildly profitable, you try to counter by saying that you personally have never made the experience of a rich person making you arrest someone for drug possession.
i know the point you are trying to make is that its kind of out of your hands. but the original point is that you, as a protector of civil liberities should be the very first to speak out about stuff like that, but instead remain to be the force that stops those that do. even without talking about riots there's enough footage of peaceful protesters being mistreated.
from an outside perspective, granted, but it seems that the bad apples that do that, can only do that because the good cops let them.
everyone knows that just because one cop peppersprayed a line of people sitting down it doesnt mean every cop would do that, but police chiefs and unions seem to always protect these individuals tooth and nail.
also you say things like drug use within black communities is a result of romantization within our society instead, or mostly instead, of poverty.
people dont take drugs because there's rap tracks about it. they do it because their lives suck, since they never had the same chance at life as others cuz the state pulls the funding out of education to use it for their police forces in order to create more cheap prison labour.
i agree that it's not copaganda and you do make a lot of great points at times with more nuance than gunmetal but you seem to miss the central issue.
Every Police department is different. They all have a different amount of good and bad people and a different number of resources they get from the state. They may all have a same kind of look but every single one has a different person with different thoughts and struggles that they go through and stuff that they deal with while on duty and off duty.
What are Judeo-Christian values you fuckin heretic
No such thing as judeo-christian values or ethics, we do not believe the same things nor value the same things
Such surprisingly thoughtful Ready or Not videos. What a crazy thing! Loved yours, you sound so sweet.