I hate when people have the notion that because itâs a plant or bc itâs natural that itâs not bad for you morphine and codine are natural and cocaine is made from plants weed isnât healthy for u but I am in favor of legislation because it should be up to adults to have the choice to do it if they want too
I find the comparisons to alcohol upsetting given alcohol had a place in society long before cars and weed does not. So of course weed should be held to a tighter standard
This is one of the best debates I have seen on youtube. Admid it or not but we form opinions from social media. It's important to have more factchecking and less he said she said
I support the concerns of the the Decriminalization perspective HOWEVER when your argument includes statements like "look at what Portugal did" and "we create this new world" and "we remove Cannabis from the legal system" it just rings as unrealistic and not pragmatic. So I think the decriminalization and legalization lobbyists just need to put their hair splitting tools down and get WORK DONE.
I live in Michigan, and there are a lot of micro brewers, and this is the only problem I have with Will's stance, just because big Alcohol companies exist, it hasn't stopped micro brewers from gaining a lot of traction in the communities they are a part of. We have dispensaries here as well, and it's the local growers that people support the most, so even if Phillip Morris came in with a product, most people would still support the local growers.
i love will's sentiment, but it's silly to think that corporations are the only ones using addiction for profit. so many individuals use addiction for profit, and will continue to whether or not it's legal, so licensing and regulation can mitigate that and ensure that products are pure and not laced by individuals to try to profit off even more addiction
This was sooooo well put together! They both made incredible and valid points which definitely made me think about the way I personally want weed to exist in our world. Would love to see a longer/more in depth version of this
There is one clear answer, imo at least, and for the us only. Make it federally legal for medicinal use, leave it up to the state for recreational use. The only thing that makes me giggle in this whole thing is that people most opposed to legalization are the biggest free market lovers and constantly scream about big government. Well, why donât you leave it to the market and the individuals to make the decisions, instead of involving the government in this?
decriminalization just sounds like a huge open door for cartels and other criminal agencies to produce and sell drugs, rather than having some form of QC and regulation on legal companies.
Alright so what i think based off this is: Legal for personal and medical use, Illegal for commercial use. Addiction for profit companies are inevitably going to take over the marijuana industry, which will lead to the public health risks mentioned in the video, so they shouldn't be allowed to sell it. This debate helped me form my own opinion on weed legalisation, thank you, Vox.
Fact #4 was absolutely useless to the conversation. That disparity will continue to exist in ALL aspects of United States capitalism, as stated by both participants.
Oh no so in a state where marijuana is just legal, that means the car crash is weeds fault đźđźđź bro what đ those crashes weâre probably all caused by alcohol and maybe a few from cannabis
Presidential debates need to look exactly like this. Debating real facts, with evidence and well crafted moral arguments. With respect for your opponent. Love this format!
According to the constitution, it is not illegal. Timothy Leary won a supreme court case over the unconstitutional tax stamp act. Cannabis was then placed on the controlled subtances act. It has been scientifically proven not to meet the criteria of a level 1 controlled substance. The enitre war on drugs is unconstitutional, and people are outraged.
I loved this debate. I hate when people see debates as just arguments people can win or lose. Here it felt like both people were actually listening and trying to learn from eachother
The problem is just like my state they monopolize it to where only the rich can be the owners of business for cannabis in my state there is only allowed 10 growers and you have to have $500000 just to submit an application with a backing of 2 million dollars in the bank and again this is just to apply for 1 of those 10 licenses. Ot has never come to allow any ordinary individual to start or own a cannabis business in WV…. let alone this is not only WV monopolizing for the rich but many more. When it becomes decriminalized very few individuals would ever take the 3 to 5 months to grow it allowing businesses just like sugar lettuce or anything else.
I always wondered whether there is a correlation between the legalization of marijuana and the use of harder drugs, not from the perspective of it being some sort of magic âgateway drugâ or because people end up preferring it over other drugs when legal, but from the perspective of people just not being used to going to drug dealers if they didnât already need to do it to get weed.
It seems to make intuitive sense and anecdotally align with my observations that people who have never tried weed thought of the idea of buying drugs from a dealer as scary and not even something they would want to try doing, but then their friend tells them itâs harmless and convinces them to try weed and they get into it, so they either find a dealer or get one of their friends who already buys it to buy theirs for them. Now they are used to the process and it doesnât sound scary both to buy illegal drugs and try something that is illegal, and maybe theyâre less likely to turn down other illegal substances when theyâre offered, or more likely to be willing to go buy them.
Really curious if any research has been done on this, because all Iâve found is other, similar topics that arenât quite this question. It might be too soon to tell since legalization hasnât happened on a federal level, so itâs still somewhat taboo and there is still a perception of weed as an illegal drug that might lessen the effect compared to years after federal legalization.
What are other topics youâd like to see in this format? Let us know in a comment below đ
can someone explain how alcohol and tobacco companies making a profit off the legalization of weed is a bad thing?
weed should be legal across the us period.
I respect peoples oppinion if they say weed has to be illegal. But if weed is illegal then alcohol should be illegal too
I agree with both of them but legalization could result in an end product that is safer for the consumer
I hate when people have the notion that because itâs a plant or bc itâs natural that itâs not bad for you morphine and codine are natural and cocaine is made from plants weed isnât healthy for u but I am in favor of legislation because it should be up to adults to have the choice to do it if they want too
I do not like weed Iâm actually allergic to it however I think it should be legal for adults both medically and recreationally
Gotta agree with my brotha here
I find the comparisons to alcohol upsetting given alcohol had a place in society long before cars and weed does not. So of course weed should be held to a tighter standard
This is one of the best debates I have seen on youtube. Admid it or not but we form opinions from social media. It's important to have more factchecking and less he said she said
I support the concerns of the the Decriminalization perspective HOWEVER when your argument includes statements like "look at what Portugal did" and "we create this new world" and "we remove Cannabis from the legal system" it just rings as unrealistic and not pragmatic. So I think the decriminalization and legalization lobbyists just need to put their hair splitting tools down and get WORK DONE.
I live in Michigan, and there are a lot of micro brewers, and this is the only problem I have with Will's stance, just because big Alcohol companies exist, it hasn't stopped micro brewers from gaining a lot of traction in the communities they are a part of. We have dispensaries here as well, and it's the local growers that people support the most, so even if Phillip Morris came in with a product, most people would still support the local growers.
This is what Jubilee should've been, and this is what most cable news channels should be, like in the era of public broadcasting. đ
Theyâre both pro. No need to watch
i love will's sentiment, but it's silly to think that corporations are the only ones using addiction for profit. so many individuals use addiction for profit, and will continue to whether or not it's legal, so licensing and regulation can mitigate that and ensure that products are pure and not laced by individuals to try to profit off even more addiction
This was sooooo well put together! They both made incredible and valid points which definitely made me think about the way I personally want weed to exist in our world. Would love to see a longer/more in depth version of this
There is one clear answer, imo at least, and for the us only. Make it federally legal for medicinal use, leave it up to the state for recreational use. The only thing that makes me giggle in this whole thing is that people most opposed to legalization are the biggest free market lovers and constantly scream about big government. Well, why donât you leave it to the market and the individuals to make the decisions, instead of involving the government in this?
decriminalization just sounds like a huge open door for cartels and other criminal agencies to produce and sell drugs, rather than having some form of QC and regulation on legal companies.
CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE???? I LOVE IT! KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. MAKE MORE OF JUST THIS TOPIC AND IN THIS STRUCTURE.
Alright so what i think based off this is: Legal for personal and medical use, Illegal for commercial use. Addiction for profit companies are inevitably going to take over the marijuana industry, which will lead to the public health risks mentioned in the video, so they shouldn't be allowed to sell it. This debate helped me form my own opinion on weed legalisation, thank you, Vox.
I love this. Do this more.
Fact #4 was absolutely useless to the conversation. That disparity will continue to exist in ALL aspects of United States capitalism, as stated by both participants.
Oh no so in a state where marijuana is just legal, that means the car crash is weeds fault đźđźđź bro what đ those crashes weâre probably all caused by alcohol and maybe a few from cannabis
Amsterdam famously has decriminalisation and also commercialisation,
They âtolerateâ the usage and sale and also set limits at how much can be imported/sold/held at a time, respectively
Legalizeâ€
Presidential debates need to look exactly like this. Debating real facts, with evidence and well crafted moral arguments. With respect for your opponent. Love this format!
According to the constitution, it is not illegal. Timothy Leary won a supreme court case over the unconstitutional tax stamp act. Cannabis was then placed on the controlled subtances act. It has been scientifically proven not to meet the criteria of a level 1 controlled substance. The enitre war on drugs is unconstitutional, and people are outraged.
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I absolutely love this. I've had this this thought for debates and I'm so happy you put this together!
I loved this debate. I hate when people see debates as just arguments people can win or lose. Here it felt like both people were actually listening and trying to learn from eachother
as a canadian legal weed slays
seems like man just doesn't want the Tabaco and alcohol companies to prophet of this but at that point then the enemy is those guys not weed
MORE OF THISSSS PLEASE
The problem is just like my state they monopolize it to where only the rich can be the owners of business for cannabis in my state there is only allowed 10 growers and you have to have $500000 just to submit an application with a backing of 2 million dollars in the bank and again this is just to apply for 1 of those 10 licenses. Ot has never come to allow any ordinary individual to start or own a cannabis business in WV…. let alone this is not only WV monopolizing for the rich but many more. When it becomes decriminalized very few individuals would ever take the 3 to 5 months to grow it allowing businesses just like sugar lettuce or anything else.
I always wondered whether there is a correlation between the legalization of marijuana and the use of harder drugs, not from the perspective of it being some sort of magic âgateway drugâ or because people end up preferring it over other drugs when legal, but from the perspective of people just not being used to going to drug dealers if they didnât already need to do it to get weed.
It seems to make intuitive sense and anecdotally align with my observations that people who have never tried weed thought of the idea of buying drugs from a dealer as scary and not even something they would want to try doing, but then their friend tells them itâs harmless and convinces them to try weed and they get into it, so they either find a dealer or get one of their friends who already buys it to buy theirs for them. Now they are used to the process and it doesnât sound scary both to buy illegal drugs and try something that is illegal, and maybe theyâre less likely to turn down other illegal substances when theyâre offered, or more likely to be willing to go buy them.
Really curious if any research has been done on this, because all Iâve found is other, similar topics that arenât quite this question. It might be too soon to tell since legalization hasnât happened on a federal level, so itâs still somewhat taboo and there is still a perception of weed as an illegal drug that might lessen the effect compared to years after federal legalization.