it’s crazy when we could’ve never found out about Bryan hiding seizures from WWE if Brie never said anything. If he came back out of retirement and had a horrible seizure/health issue , everyone would’ve blamed WWE even though Bryan was lying to them.
There's a side to professional wrestling that some of you just don't know. I've had a promoter shoot down a spot that involved one wrestler putting another in a standing fireman's carry and ramming their head into the padded turnbuckle on the basis that that the taker was an idiot who would somehow end up hurt by it. I've seen a promoter shoot down a wrestler's boots and tell him to get "safer" ones before wrestling a match.
He's been thinking he's some kind of tough guy by coming back early from serious injuries for the last 20+ years when he was in Ring Of Honor, let him carry on until he cripples himself, he's a grown man, let him do whatever he wants and then drop him when he can't stop drooling on himself
Bryan Danielson regressed…When he first came back from retirement he worked a safer style and focused more on character work as he had a great run as a heel champion largely based on that…In AEW he has gone back to wrestling like he did in the indies despite having more injuries and being signficantly older
To me they are learning the wrong lessons from watching the Japanese tape trading days. Jushin liger had to adjust and change his style as the wear and tear on his knees/back/neck built up, in the long run it helped him he had a longer career.
Aew fans only care about the car crashes. They don’t care who does the insane stunts, they just want the insane stunts. They were chanting for fire. They want to see guys and gals get hurt and bleed. They don’t care about the wrestlers personalities or health. They want the carnage. They want the furniture. They want barbed wire. They want blood drinking. They don’t care about wrestling. They want real violence.
Randy Orton used to do a BEAUTIFUL Flying Body Press pin. Ricky The Dragon Steamboat level. I remember hearing someone suggest he cut it from his arsenal.
Honestly I think wrestling fans are desensitized to how extreme/violent spots and moves are nowadays. Idk, it’s how I imagine if you just watched HD porn all the time, the real stuff doesn’t faze you. I think fans need a cleanse and wrestling promotions need to dial it back. But it was a race to the bottom of people missing the point of wrestling and now it’s cheap pops and spots all while destroying your body for something that is going to be forgotten in 3 seconds. I’ll go be an old man and yell at a cloud now.
A prime example of a wrestler changing their style after an injury would be Steve Austin. Early 90's Austin was a totally different wrestler than what the mega star of the late 90's was. After the knees, elbow (I think), and ultimately the broken neck, he completely changed things up and still had a huge run. Some of these wrestlers won't be satisfied until they or someone else is permantly injured or paralyzed and then wonder how this sort of thing could have happened.
Danielson is like the wrestling version of Muse, all of the talent in the world and never grasping what made him in the first place. Constantly chasing new ways to overachieve…
The flippy floppy stuff may have made for more exciting wrestling but at least before they all started doing this risky style I knew I would most likely be seeing my favorites week after week therefore I was invested in them. I can't do that now with most of the "talent" because of the dangerous style that could, and has, end careers instantly.
I see it like this AEW caters for a certian type of crowd and they might be ambivalent to wrestlers getting hurt they want their high spots and by god they they'll get them at the cost of Danielson and others careers
Corny gives the AEW fans too much credit here – there is a far too large a proportion of them who will not worry about the health of the people they are watching, the same group of gormless idiots who thought the blood drinking spot was great
When you look at all the major stars in the history of wrestling. Hogan Flair Austin Rock Cena They all have one thing in common. They never did crazy spots . And yet they still got over like hell.
I think there's a point where the toothpaste is out of the tube and you can't tone it down because that's now what the fans expect. The average AEW fan would likely find a "toned down" show boring and turn against it. That's why you have to be careful about the expectation you set in the first place.
I've been cringing at Bryan Danielson's wrestling ever since 2018 because of the aforementioned health troubles that led him to retire in the first place. Death in the wrestling ring is something that should NEVER be witnessed on a wrestling show even though we've had a few predecessors already in the history books… 🙏🏾
These guys love shitting on aew and some of what they say is true but I like the hard style and banned wwe moves they do. Thats what got me back into wrestling and even got me watching wwe again since the dawn of the terrible pg era. Aew has been good for the business overall keep up the hardstyle boys
As bad as Vince was. At least the guy cared about you. He wouldn't let you wrestle while injured or having a concussion. Seizures are something serious. That I don't think Tony knows how serious they are. People with seizures can die. They get amnesia. But clearly Tony doesn't care cause he sends Bryan Danielson to wrestle when he can't. There is a reason why Big E hasn't been cleared to get in the ring.
You know, when he got cleared by WWE to wrestle again, that same night on Smackdown, he took an apron bump by Owens and i said to myself why are you taking big bumps like this after being cleared?
The problem is that Bryan Danielson is a sports entertainer and not a professional wrestler. A professional wrestler works a match that is supposed to look like a legitimate contest. We're supposed to think this is a sport. Instead, we're told it's not real by the promoters and the workers when they're breaking kayfabe in interviews. But then when they're "performing," they're giving us some live-action theater rather than a sport.
So how is Bryan Danielson going to tone it down and make it look a real contest, when he doesn't actually know how to do that and all he's ever done was was theater?
I think about Bret Hart's WWE HOF speech where he said that wrestling Curt Hennig was a night off. Anyway, Bryan was supposed to never wrestle again, and then he had a miraculous return. However, he keeps getting hurt. He's lucky to have even stepped foot in a ring again after 2016, but he's just testing fate at this point.
The miz was right
The Second Coming of Johnny Valentine…
it’s crazy when we could’ve never found out about Bryan hiding seizures from WWE if Brie never said anything. If he came back out of retirement and had a horrible seizure/health issue , everyone would’ve blamed WWE even though Bryan was lying to them.
There's a side to professional wrestling that some of you just don't know. I've had a promoter shoot down a spot that involved one wrestler putting another in a standing fireman's carry and ramming their head into the padded turnbuckle on the basis that that the taker was an idiot who would somehow end up hurt by it. I've seen a promoter shoot down a wrestler's boots and tell him to get "safer" ones before wrestling a match.
"I will never put a company before my health again."
-CM Punk.
He's been thinking he's some kind of tough guy by coming back early from serious injuries for the last 20+ years when he was in Ring Of Honor, let him carry on until he cripples himself, he's a grown man, let him do whatever he wants and then drop him when he can't stop drooling on himself
Bryan Danielson regressed…When he first came back from retirement he worked a safer style and focused more on character work as he had a great run as a heel champion largely based on that…In AEW he has gone back to wrestling like he did in the indies despite having more injuries and being signficantly older
Here we go again
My old friend chester snap dragon mcfist a cuffs
My old friend chester snap dragon mcfist a cuffs
To me they are learning the wrong lessons from watching the Japanese tape trading days. Jushin liger had to adjust and change his style as the wear and tear on his knees/back/neck built up, in the long run it helped him he had a longer career.
Every year, Danielsons attack on the miz wrestling a soft style looks more and more ridiculous
Aew fans only care about the car crashes. They don’t care who does the insane stunts, they just want the insane stunts. They were chanting for fire. They want to see guys and gals get hurt and bleed.
They don’t care about the wrestlers personalities or health. They want the carnage. They want the furniture. They want barbed wire. They want blood drinking. They don’t care about wrestling. They want real violence.
wtf was the point of picking at brie? like get to the point
Randy Orton used to do a BEAUTIFUL Flying Body Press pin. Ricky The Dragon Steamboat level. I remember hearing someone suggest he cut it from his arsenal.
I love Liv Morgan because she constantly makes me think shes injured and then shes fine.
Honestly I think wrestling fans are desensitized to how extreme/violent spots and moves are nowadays. Idk, it’s how I imagine if you just watched HD porn all the time, the real stuff doesn’t faze you. I think fans need a cleanse and wrestling promotions need to dial it back. But it was a race to the bottom of people missing the point of wrestling and now it’s cheap pops and spots all while destroying your body for something that is going to be forgotten in 3 seconds. I’ll go be an old man and yell at a cloud now.
Jim, too many current fans want to see current wrestlers risk injury because they think it is like the gladiators!!!!!!
Foley was only known for that one style. Bryan can avoid the risky bumps, and we’d still be entertained by his work. See; The Yes movement…
Bryan Danielson is a goof
A prime example of a wrestler changing their style after an injury would be Steve Austin. Early 90's Austin was a totally different wrestler than what the mega star of the late 90's was. After the knees, elbow (I think), and ultimately the broken neck, he completely changed things up and still had a huge run. Some of these wrestlers won't be satisfied until they or someone else is permantly injured or paralyzed and then wonder how this sort of thing could have happened.
Benoit, Dynamite, Race, Stevens, there isn't an excuse to grind ur bones into dust anymore! I wish Danielson would actually act like a vet
Last was right on!
Fake wrestling and real injuries..sadists
Danielson is like the wrestling version of Muse, all of the talent in the world and never grasping what made him in the first place. Constantly chasing new ways to overachieve…
Bryan Danielson is his own worst enemy. With his multiple injuries
I love daniel bryan great person amazing wrestler but he really needs to think of his future if he is getting hurt alot
Well Daniel probably going the way of Mick. His body is broke down before his 50 years old.
Jim wanders a lot here, but the bottom line is PROFESSIONALISM. These guys don't have it, and it's as simple as that.
The flippy floppy stuff may have made for more exciting wrestling but at least before they all started doing this risky style I knew I would most likely be seeing my favorites week after week therefore I was invested in them. I can't do that now with most of the "talent" because of the dangerous style that could, and has, end careers instantly.
BD sounds like a fkn ret…
I see it like this
AEW caters for a certian type of crowd and they might be ambivalent to wrestlers getting hurt
they want their high spots and by god they they'll get them
at the cost of Danielson and others careers
Corny gives the AEW fans too much credit here – there is a far too large a proportion of them who will not worry about the health of the people they are watching, the same group of gormless idiots who thought the blood drinking spot was great
They need someone who would shutdown wrestler from doing stupid shit in AEW like going through real glass. If only we have someone like that 🤔
When you look at all the major stars in the history of wrestling.
Hogan
Flair
Austin
Rock
Cena
They all have one thing in common. They never did crazy spots . And yet they still got over like hell.
I think there's a point where the toothpaste is out of the tube and you can't tone it down because that's now what the fans expect. The average AEW fan would likely find a "toned down" show boring and turn against it. That's why you have to be careful about the expectation you set in the first place.
brain damage
I wonder if prowrestling can be made real by banning some moves
I've been cringing at Bryan Danielson's wrestling ever since 2018 because of the aforementioned health troubles that led him to retire in the first place. Death in the wrestling ring is something that should NEVER be witnessed on a wrestling show even though we've had a few predecessors already in the history books… 🙏🏾
Daniel Bryan > Bryan Danielson
These guys love shitting on aew and some of what they say is true but I like the hard style and banned wwe moves they do. Thats what got me back into wrestling and even got me watching wwe again since the dawn of the terrible pg era. Aew has been good for the business overall keep up the hardstyle boys
It's Dude Love. That thumbnail.
As bad as Vince was. At least the guy cared about you. He wouldn't let you wrestle while injured or having a concussion. Seizures are something serious. That I don't think Tony knows how serious they are. People with seizures can die. They get amnesia. But clearly Tony doesn't care cause he sends Bryan Danielson to wrestle when he can't. There is a reason why Big E hasn't been cleared to get in the ring.
Would be destined if WBD chooses WWE. AEW is leading wrestling down a dark path.
You know, when he got cleared by WWE to wrestle again, that same night on Smackdown, he took an apron bump by Owens and i said to myself why are you taking big bumps like this after being cleared?
The problem is that Bryan Danielson is a sports entertainer and not a professional wrestler. A professional wrestler works a match that is supposed to look like a legitimate contest. We're supposed to think this is a sport. Instead, we're told it's not real by the promoters and the workers when they're breaking kayfabe in interviews. But then when they're "performing," they're giving us some live-action theater rather than a sport.
So how is Bryan Danielson going to tone it down and make it look a real contest, when he doesn't actually know how to do that and all he's ever done was was theater?
If you've ever had a seizure, he just feels like he's mocking you,. I lost memory and acted embarrassingly, glad it's funny and even sweet
I think about Bret Hart's WWE HOF speech where he said that wrestling Curt Hennig was a night off. Anyway, Bryan was supposed to never wrestle again, and then he had a miraculous return. However, he keeps getting hurt. He's lucky to have even stepped foot in a ring again after 2016, but he's just testing fate at this point.
I love the guy. TK, please don't help him die.
This is such a sad end to his career.