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The fact that just cause kick backs are normal mean that some people think that means it is good is horrifying to me. Just cause it is normal does not mean it is good
I would love a video on Noonday. It's an MLM so I obviously don't trust their business model. But the idea of supporting craftspeople from around the world seems like a good idea. Are they taking advantage of these people?
I didn’t know that information about glucosamine but I did do some research after two vets recommended it for my dog. Some sources noted there were discrepancies in the outcomes but I did not find any reason to NOT give it to him. I bought a small container from my local pet shop thinking I’d give it two months just to see. I’ll be darned if there wasn’t incredible improvements in just over 3 weeks. He went from acting 14 to acting his age(6 at the time) he’s 8 now and outpaces our 4 year old dog constantly. Yes, they both are healthy and go in at minimum once a year for routine check ups. He can even go swimming again which makes us both happy! I feel bad for people who fall prey to companies and products like those highlighted in the video. I would have done anything to help my pup walk and play normally again. Luckily my choice product is inexpensive and so far hasn’t had a negative impact on his health.
I am a vet tech in an ER. Last night, I had 4 patients that were hospitalized because of joint supplement overdoses. And yesterday was the first day of my work week. I see SOOOO many of these overdose cases on supplements because they accidentally give too much, there’s long time damage from taking them, or people think they are safe and leave them in the animals reach and they get into it. It’s just risky if your dog doesn’t have issues. And don’t get me started on breeders.🙄🙄🙄 I just had a case of four puppies from the same litter coming in with parvo virus. The breeder told them to bring all the puppies back to her and she would personally treat them. That’s not possible without hospitalization. It’s just shitty the lies breeders tell people after taking their money
As someone who has worked in veterinary clinics for the past 7 years, I can say that veterinary clinics do not get kickbacks for recommending Hill's Science Diet. We recommend them based on the fact they perform clinical testing to ensure efficacy of their foods (especially of their prescription lines). In fact, I feed all of my dogs and cats Science diet because I belive in their product 1000%.
As a veterinarian, thank you so much for this video. The pet supplement industry is the wild west. Like what was said, the FDA doesn't even regulate what is in it – you can't even guarantee the precise amounts of everything in it, let alone if it's effective. There's very few studies showing benefit for general vitamin and mineral supplements.
I would be very interested to see what you could dig up on Grain Free/Limited Ingredient pet food. My vet point blank told me to get a different food for my terrier when I told her I was using Zignature Limited Ingredient diet while trying to figure out why she was losing her fur (fish allergy, poor pup, she is her mama's daughter). She said that there has been a re-emergence of a fatal heart disease that was all but eradicated before the Grain Free craze, and that this actually was a thing that pet food companies came up with, not vets or veterinary scientists. They suspect it's due to the legumes (like lentils) that they use as a filler and protein source that isn't in normal pet food. Dogs are getting this disease and dying because the pet food industry needed a new thing to promote and pet parents are tricked into thinking they're actually doing something good for their pets. >:( I'm in a smaller town, but our clinic has lost multiple dogs to this disease, and that's at a small, independent clinic. I'd hate to see how many dogs a larger office would have lost.
Since you are covering pet scams, please do the "grain-free causes heart disease" fake scam "study" (that wasn't even a real study and wasn't peer reviewed) that came out in 2018 that was paid for by big grain companies like Purina, Hills, and Mars to get people to start buying their crappy products again (because people were starting to feed their pets better quality foods and they didn't like that). People at the time freaked out and it has caused lasting devastating affects on the pet food industry to this day and caused the misconception that grain-free is bad. Even the FDA came out in 2020 after doing their own studies and found no link between grain-free and DCM (dilated cardiomyopathy), but people and even some vets still recommend grain. That's also another issue (that you touched on at the end but should get its own video) where a lot of vets get trained on and get kick backs from Purina, Hills, and Mars, so they recommend them even though they aren't good food choices.
The issue isn't only that unproven supplements do nothing, but also that owners will use them instead of going to the vet while the disease is still mild, and as a result pets only get veterinary care when the disease is already very severe, and often irreversible. It's incredibly frustrating. Sure, if you can afford to use a supplement or whatever other substance in conjuction with evidence-based therapies, then go ahead (this only applies if the supplement in question will do no harm). But it should never be used intead of proper therapies.
Apart from that, Blaire is correct when she says that if your dog is on a good diet, it shouldn't need supplements in the first place.
You know blue-light blocking lenses are a scam, right? They're not supported by any scientific evidence, and in fact multiple studies have proved they have no effect at all.
Fuck wow I wasn’t aware Nuvet had such an issue goin on. The paying breeders thing is 100% true, I have an aunt that breeds a few dod breeds and is pretty heavily into their products, and when I visited last august to stay with her she got a call from her nuvet rep that her like- code recommendations made her near $4,000 that period of sales, so a few cents my ass (it was like 3,970-something, she pushes her code on her social media’s and gets a kickback every few months I think, I’m not 100% certain how frequent it is). I was absolutely shocked since she definitely doesn’t tell her online fans she makes money from it and I had no idea she got paid either
Thank you for finally covering PawTree. My mom is a PawTree hun and has tried to sucker me into it a few times. This was a few years ago, back before I knew it was an MLM (and what they are). Even then, something about it seemed off. I'm glad I know better now. It's just sad that people have brought their pets into them now.
Look into Israel cannabis studies start in 1964 when receptor THC binds too as well as, our own endocannabinoid system. That all mammals have was discovered. So if you want cannabinoid research done by medical professionals with data its out there just all comes out of Israel. Also cannabis the plant has more documented information written about it, than all other plant species all combined together. So I think it time we stop saying there isn't even information, because there is. Though very hard to access in the United States due to prohibition. What we don't have a specific studies for specific diseases, yet, but is coming. That's what allows you to make claims. Yes, every other claim is anecdotical. Though the FDA, as well as the DEA, can't deny that the endocannabinoid system is how all mammals bodies maintain homeostasis. All CBD when given at the proper amount does is bind to what is called the allistaric site on the receptor and try to balance the hyperactivity or hypoactivity happening within the organ system and its communication to the brain through the CB1 and CB2 receptors. Also, phytocannabinoids are just mimicking what our endocannabinoids do.
When I moved to Mexico my dog was on 3 prescription meds costing me $300 a month for her appetite. In Mexico the vets (I've seen 4) said vets in the US often overmedicate animals which contributes to their problems. They figured out my dog actually has a thyroid problem (which she takes a prescription for) and they gave her 2 vitamins and supplements to support her health. She is 17 and has a better appetite than she has had in years (eats 3 whole cans of dog food a day). Sometimes the vet just hasn't found it what is really wrong or (as the vets here told me) the dogs are reacting to stress in their environment which is making them ill. I never had a vet in the US care about the mental health of my dog but every vet here told me how important it is to include that in their health plan. I've had animals have terrible disease which can't be cured, and it is heartbreaking. I feel for every pet parent desperately looking for help for their animal. Companies preying on this is vile and unforgivable.
Someone should make a website for reporting these scams. The reports should have all evidence compiled into a proof of scam and the whole package shipped to the appropriate organizations.
FDA has specific regulations to regulate the human dietary supplement industry (10 yrs ago). This came years and years after fighting Congress and especially Sen. Warren Hatch (fought against specific regulations because he was a partner is several dietary supplement firms). FDA does not have specific regulations on supplements for animals but still regulates them and can take action if found to be detrimental. If any “supplement” makes a claim that it diagnoses, cures, mitigates, prevents or treats a physiological issue, it is considered a drug with all the regulations behind veterinary drugs. Problem is risk. It takes money to go after things and if there are no complaints showing the risk of the product, it becomes low-priority. You have a complaint, report it to FDA.
There are so many sketchy puppy mills and backyard breeders that don't really care about the health of the dogs they breed. Your best bet for good breeders is to check national club websites for a list of registered breeders (ex. Samoyed club of America). They have strict rules and requirements for being a member and is almost guarenteed to be an ethical breeder. Aside from that, a good diet (fresh/raw/human grade etc) and plenty of proper exercise will do more than these supplements will ever give you.
The fact that just cause kick backs are normal mean that some people think that means it is good is horrifying to me. Just cause it is normal does not mean it is good
You’re a goddess, Blair. Daisy-dog and I thank you.
I would love a video on Noonday. It's an MLM so I obviously don't trust their business model. But the idea of supporting craftspeople from around the world seems like a good idea. Are they taking advantage of these people?
have you ever covered LR? It is a very weird mlm!
I didn’t know that information about glucosamine but I did do some research after two vets recommended it for my dog. Some sources noted there were discrepancies in the outcomes but I did not find any reason to NOT give it to him. I bought a small container from my local pet shop thinking I’d give it two months just to see. I’ll be darned if there wasn’t incredible improvements in just over 3 weeks. He went from acting 14 to acting his age(6 at the time) he’s 8 now and outpaces our 4 year old dog constantly. Yes, they both are healthy and go in at minimum once a year for routine check ups. He can even go swimming again which makes us both happy! I feel bad for people who fall prey to companies and products like those highlighted in the video. I would have done anything to help my pup walk and play normally again. Luckily my choice product is inexpensive and so far hasn’t had a negative impact on his health.
I am a vet tech in an ER. Last night, I had 4 patients that were hospitalized because of joint supplement overdoses. And yesterday was the first day of my work week. I see SOOOO many of these overdose cases on supplements because they accidentally give too much, there’s long time damage from taking them, or people think they are safe and leave them in the animals reach and they get into it. It’s just risky if your dog doesn’t have issues. And don’t get me started on breeders.🙄🙄🙄 I just had a case of four puppies from the same litter coming in with parvo virus. The breeder told them to bring all the puppies back to her and she would personally treat them. That’s not possible without hospitalization. It’s just shitty the lies breeders tell people after taking their money
As someone who has worked in veterinary clinics for the past 7 years, I can say that veterinary clinics do not get kickbacks for recommending Hill's Science Diet. We recommend them based on the fact they perform clinical testing to ensure efficacy of their foods (especially of their prescription lines). In fact, I feed all of my dogs and cats Science diet because I belive in their product 1000%.
As a veterinarian, thank you so much for this video. The pet supplement industry is the wild west. Like what was said, the FDA doesn't even regulate what is in it – you can't even guarantee the precise amounts of everything in it, let alone if it's effective. There's very few studies showing benefit for general vitamin and mineral supplements.
I would be very interested to see what you could dig up on Grain Free/Limited Ingredient pet food. My vet point blank told me to get a different food for my terrier when I told her I was using Zignature Limited Ingredient diet while trying to figure out why she was losing her fur (fish allergy, poor pup, she is her mama's daughter). She said that there has been a re-emergence of a fatal heart disease that was all but eradicated before the Grain Free craze, and that this actually was a thing that pet food companies came up with, not vets or veterinary scientists. They suspect it's due to the legumes (like lentils) that they use as a filler and protein source that isn't in normal pet food. Dogs are getting this disease and dying because the pet food industry needed a new thing to promote and pet parents are tricked into thinking they're actually doing something good for their pets. >:( I'm in a smaller town, but our clinic has lost multiple dogs to this disease, and that's at a small, independent clinic. I'd hate to see how many dogs a larger office would have lost.
Since you are covering pet scams, please do the "grain-free causes heart disease" fake scam "study" (that wasn't even a real study and wasn't peer reviewed) that came out in 2018 that was paid for by big grain companies like Purina, Hills, and Mars to get people to start buying their crappy products again (because people were starting to feed their pets better quality foods and they didn't like that). People at the time freaked out and it has caused lasting devastating affects on the pet food industry to this day and caused the misconception that grain-free is bad. Even the FDA came out in 2020 after doing their own studies and found no link between grain-free and DCM (dilated cardiomyopathy), but people and even some vets still recommend grain. That's also another issue (that you touched on at the end but should get its own video) where a lot of vets get trained on and get kick backs from Purina, Hills, and Mars, so they recommend them even though they aren't good food choices.
The issue isn't only that unproven supplements do nothing, but also that owners will use them instead of going to the vet while the disease is still mild, and as a result pets only get veterinary care when the disease is already very severe, and often irreversible. It's incredibly frustrating.
Sure, if you can afford to use a supplement or whatever other substance in conjuction with evidence-based therapies, then go ahead (this only applies if the supplement in question will do no harm). But it should never be used intead of proper therapies.
Apart from that, Blaire is correct when she says that if your dog is on a good diet, it shouldn't need supplements in the first place.
When I saw the titles I thought Men Loving Men
Ok, but CBD oil really does work on animals! Idk about any other claims, but CBD oil isn't bs.
Happy new Year, Illu
Look forward to seeing your good work this year
you mean "mlem"?
You know blue-light blocking lenses are a scam, right? They're not supported by any scientific evidence, and in fact multiple studies have proved they have no effect at all.
I want that plushie! It so cute! * Goes to link *
Fuck wow I wasn’t aware Nuvet had such an issue goin on. The paying breeders thing is 100% true, I have an aunt that breeds a few dod breeds and is pretty heavily into their products, and when I visited last august to stay with her she got a call from her nuvet rep that her like- code recommendations made her near $4,000 that period of sales, so a few cents my ass (it was like 3,970-something, she pushes her code on her social media’s and gets a kickback every few months I think, I’m not 100% certain how frequent it is). I was absolutely shocked since she definitely doesn’t tell her online fans she makes money from it and I had no idea she got paid either
Thank you for finally covering PawTree. My mom is a PawTree hun and has tried to sucker me into it a few times. This was a few years ago, back before I knew it was an MLM (and what they are). Even then, something about it seemed off. I'm glad I know better now. It's just sad that people have brought their pets into them now.
"Oh yeah I hope this f*ckin' kills Sophie." I laughed so hard I went to hell.
Look into Israel cannabis studies start in 1964 when receptor THC binds too as well as, our own endocannabinoid system. That all mammals have was discovered. So if you want cannabinoid research done by medical professionals with data its out there just all comes out of Israel. Also cannabis the plant has more documented information written about it, than all other plant species all combined together. So I think it time we stop saying there isn't even information, because there is. Though very hard to access in the United States due to prohibition. What we don't have a specific studies for specific diseases, yet, but is coming. That's what allows you to make claims. Yes, every other claim is anecdotical. Though the FDA, as well as the DEA, can't deny that the endocannabinoid system is how all mammals bodies maintain homeostasis. All CBD when given at the proper amount does is bind to what is called the allistaric site on the receptor and try to balance the hyperactivity or hypoactivity happening within the organ system and its communication to the brain through the CB1 and CB2 receptors. Also, phytocannabinoids are just mimicking what our endocannabinoids do.
When I moved to Mexico my dog was on 3 prescription meds costing me $300 a month for her appetite. In Mexico the vets (I've seen 4) said vets in the US often overmedicate animals which contributes to their problems. They figured out my dog actually has a thyroid problem (which she takes a prescription for) and they gave her 2 vitamins and supplements to support her health. She is 17 and has a better appetite than she has had in years (eats 3 whole cans of dog food a day). Sometimes the vet just hasn't found it what is really wrong or (as the vets here told me) the dogs are reacting to stress in their environment which is making them ill. I never had a vet in the US care about the mental health of my dog but every vet here told me how important it is to include that in their health plan. I've had animals have terrible disease which can't be cured, and it is heartbreaking. I feel for every pet parent desperately looking for help for their animal. Companies preying on this is vile and unforgivable.
Someone should make a website for reporting these scams. The reports should have all evidence compiled into a proof of scam and the whole package shipped to the appropriate organizations.
FDA has specific regulations to regulate the human dietary supplement industry (10 yrs ago). This came years and years after fighting Congress and especially Sen. Warren Hatch (fought against specific regulations because he was a partner is several dietary supplement firms). FDA does not have specific regulations on supplements for animals but still regulates them and can take action if found to be detrimental.
If any “supplement” makes a claim that it diagnoses, cures, mitigates, prevents or treats a physiological issue, it is considered a drug with all the regulations behind veterinary drugs. Problem is risk. It takes money to go after things and if there are no complaints showing the risk of the product, it becomes low-priority. You have a complaint, report it to FDA.
There are so many sketchy puppy mills and backyard breeders that don't really care about the health of the dogs they breed. Your best bet for good breeders is to check national club websites for a list of registered breeders (ex. Samoyed club of America). They have strict rules and requirements for being a member and is almost guarenteed to be an ethical breeder. Aside from that, a good diet (fresh/raw/human grade etc) and plenty of proper exercise will do more than these supplements will ever give you.
the toad bullies mlm is pretty horrifying. most of the people involved also just straight up say it's a pyramid skeem like it's a good thing.
The AKC Charity is fine lol