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I really appreciate how real and raw you are. You have such a refreshing down to earth style and Itâs obvious you deeply care as well as want the best for not only for your clients also for the âsystemâ world of psycho-therapy.
CBT helped me reduce my panic attacks a LOT. I still need work and I'm doing somatic therapy now, but CBT does have its place. Other times that I've tried CBT it made me feel worse about myself.
CBT was bad for me but, for my friend, was even worse. She unearthed past traumas she went through and went in a terrible place and now rarely leaves home. Worst of all, the therapist kinds "gaslighted" her into thinking she was making progress, that the only reason she was getting worse was bc she stopped the therapy (for money issues) and the way she felt on seeing the trauma (that she wasn't ready to deal with) is something they just need to work on dealing with. I have no idea how to help my friend to see that CBT isn't healthy for her at all
As a therapist, CBT feels like Iâm asking clients to gaslight themselves. I prefer ACT when it comes to the cognitive therapies followed by DBT skills.
Man, I hated CBT because it felt like the therapist I was seeing had no negative or challenging life experiences. I was struggling with an undiagnosed eating disorder at the time and when I told her my habits in an attempt to get help, her response was to tell me âwell restriction can actually make you fatter.â And then have me count the number of blue objects in her office? I saw her twice and waited another 6 years before trying therapy again.
Unless you help a specific group of clients with for example exposure therapy for people with phobias you need to adapt your approach and meet the person never ONLY meet them with th method, the method needs to be applied when needed and appropriate
CBT was trying to tell my problems to shut up. I was sent to a partial hospitalization program with cbt, the whole thing caused me to go into a fawning reflex and I think it made me trust abusive people more because it made me more able to shut up my brain screaming at me to get away from this person. I think I would have recovered a lot faster had I never been there
I'm curious to know your thoughts on OCD, as CBT often seems to be considered the "gold standard" treatment of it. I have ocd and went to a cbt therapist and ngl i found it invalidating and kinda dumb (in terms of the worksheets, they felt so basic and surface level) but that was just my experience with one cbt practitioner, not sure if it usually gets good results with other folks with ocd?
You dont have to say it, i will. CBT is trash and i dont think it works for anyone who has real problems.
As a scizophic cbt is nonsense literally. As a perspn who doesnt have a inner "mind" voice like a lot of people there isnt change thoughts if theres pictures and or no thoughts. e.,e
Im so thankful my therapist used EMDR and not CBT because the latter would have absolutely sent me spiraling CBT does not play well with autistic people
Yeah CBT used to treat a chronic pain condition is an absolute nightmare. It treats your natural responses to what's physically happening to you as invalid and irrational. It assumes that you have 'control' over real physiological things….and then what develops is shame.
i LOVE the idea of the âyes, andâ approach!!! itâs a good way to think by yourself. sitting on the couch feeling afraid of the day, fatigue bc of it, depression cuz of that. instead of saying âwtf am i gonna doâ, thinking âi am afraid yet exhaustedâŠAND i am doing this and this, and if i just continue xyz then i can go from thereâ type of thing. again, rather than not gettint up at all bc of fear; or not doing work at work bc of anxiety-sourced rage or so on.
I was offered counselling after experiencing my first mental health difficulties following the birth of my son. I'd been through an extreme, and frightening period of psychosis, at a really vulnerable time in my life, and my baby's life. I can still remember the therapist drawing a diagram about thoughts and actions for me, and explaining what was trying to be achieved. I was asked about my thought patterns . . . I had none!! My mind was a blank. I hadn't experienced psychosis because I'd got unhelpful thought patterns, I'd just had an awful chemical upheaval. I was so shocked that the therapist wasn't interested in how I felt about the life changing period I'd just been through, but only about thoughts I was having (which, in reality, I just wasn't having). I'm not sure I went back to my next session, I definitely didn't bother with the third. I still feel let down, and that was more than twenty years ago. Luckily, good friends to talk with, and educational sessions with other people with lived experience have given me so much of what I needed – but I've never gone seeking therapy ever again. Maybe one day I will, maybe, maybe not. Thanks for the video – it explained my reaction to CBT perfectly.
CBT can be damaging for trauma survivors or people currently being abused because it very much resembles the invalidating, gaslighting relationships which have caused all of the problems in the first place.
I found BWRT a lot more helpful for my emetophobia than CBT. It's linked to hypnotherapy, which seems to work well for a lot of neurodivergent people like myself – I'm not sure why though! If you have an opinion on BWRT, I'd love to hear it! đ
I was in therapy for a brief amount of time and was expressing, among other things my unwillingness to do a certain task. She basically told me "just do it anyway". I mean, someone was holding me accountable and I WANTED to get better so I pretty much forced myself to do this task and still felt like sh*t, more so bc I had forced it. I told her that I was feeling even worse and she was like "you did it, the rest doesn't matter for now". She said that bc I had set myself this task and was doing it (it is a regular task) I had all the tools I needed and had no further need for therapy and discharged me. I do not keep up with this task and feel like cr*p. This was NOT the only issue I expressed but was all she focused on so now I'm in EXACTLY the same place
Iâve not been treated with CBT nor has it been suggested to me (thankfully), but I remember researching different therapies because I lived with a family member with severe mental illness and when I got to CBT I was like, well thatâs only helpful if youâre actually safe! As a queer person with uterus and anxiety over climate change and living with said family member, I was pretty disillusioned with the idea. I think like a lot of things in psychology, it probably works for some people in certain situations, but itâs also probably overprescribed because we have a system based on paying the least money for treatment and denying that structural problems exist.
As a patient I hate CBT as well. My emotions are my emotions, the end. Then we can change some of the circumstances, that makes me feel this way, so my emotions change as well. It doesn't mean that I have to deal with my emotions all the time. Sometimes I "send them out in the garden" (my former psychologist's favourite visualisation), which means that I recognise their existence, but not letting them interfere with my life right now.
One of the things, that I have spent the most energy learning in therapy is that MY EMOTIONS ARE VALID, no matter how "unpretty" they may be. That no matter what, the best thing I can do for myself is to love and care for myself.
Knowing my psychologist a little makes it easier to open up. I've had depression since I was 13 (which is 20 years ago), and this means that there's a lot of things, where I simply don't know if it's normal. My psychologist saying "I feel this way too" makes a world of difference.
I wish I had understood this sooner. I had only heard that CBT was evidence-based. When a neuropsychologist told us âyour daughter doesnât have autism but I would recommend CBTâ, I didnât understand what she was saying. I picked up on some other red flags and didnât take her too seriously, but it took me a long time to figure out that she was dismissing our concerns completely. (My daughter is brilliant and I love how her mind works; I wouldnât look for a pathologized diagnosis for her if we werenât desperate for a way to make her path through life and school easier.)
I get itâs not for everyone, but I LOVE those CBT gummies. I wish I lived in a state with legal weed, because I would prefer thc, but yeahâŠ. I have dyslexia
Have you any recommendations for therapy for an autistic teen with depression? As his mother, I want to help him but I don't really know where to go with him to help him most. He gets medication for his depression.
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I really appreciate how real and raw you are. You have such a refreshing down to earth style and Itâs obvious you deeply care as well as want the best for not only for your clients also for the âsystemâ world of psycho-therapy.
CBT helped me reduce my panic attacks a LOT. I still need work and I'm doing somatic therapy now, but CBT does have its place. Other times that I've tried CBT it made me feel worse about myself.
CBT was bad for me but, for my friend, was even worse. She unearthed past traumas she went through and went in a terrible place and now rarely leaves home. Worst of all, the therapist kinds "gaslighted" her into thinking she was making progress, that the only reason she was getting worse was bc she stopped the therapy (for money issues) and the way she felt on seeing the trauma (that she wasn't ready to deal with) is something they just need to work on dealing with. I have no idea how to help my friend to see that CBT isn't healthy for her at all
As a therapist, CBT feels like Iâm asking clients to gaslight themselves. I prefer ACT when it comes to the cognitive therapies followed by DBT skills.
Man, I hated CBT because it felt like the therapist I was seeing had no negative or challenging life experiences. I was struggling with an undiagnosed eating disorder at the time and when I told her my habits in an attempt to get help, her response was to tell me âwell restriction can actually make you fatter.â And then have me count the number of blue objects in her office? I saw her twice and waited another 6 years before trying therapy again.
Unless you help a specific group of clients with for example exposure therapy for people with phobias you need to adapt your approach and meet the person never ONLY meet them with th method, the method needs to be applied when needed and appropriate
CBT was trying to tell my problems to shut up. I was sent to a partial hospitalization program with cbt, the whole thing caused me to go into a fawning reflex and I think it made me trust abusive people more because it made me more able to shut up my brain screaming at me to get away from this person. I think I would have recovered a lot faster had I never been there
I'm curious to know your thoughts on OCD, as CBT often seems to be considered the "gold standard" treatment of it. I have ocd and went to a cbt therapist and ngl i found it invalidating and kinda dumb (in terms of the worksheets, they felt so basic and surface level) but that was just my experience with one cbt practitioner, not sure if it usually gets good results with other folks with ocd?
You dont have to say it, i will. CBT is trash and i dont think it works for anyone who has real problems.
As a scizophic cbt is nonsense literally. As a perspn who doesnt have a inner "mind" voice like a lot of people there isnt change thoughts if theres pictures and or no thoughts. e.,e
CBT is not for everyone. CBT is for who can understand, educated people
âYes, andâŠâ
âSay that $&@t with yoâ chest,â
âAndâŠâ
Shmudder shmelp lol
Iâm a social work student and the book in the thumbnail (Mind Over Mood) is one of my textbooks right now đ
Im so thankful my therapist used EMDR and not CBT because the latter would have absolutely sent me spiraling
CBT does not play well with autistic people
WHAT!!! FINALLY!!! I FKN HATE CBT I CANNOT WAIT TO WATCH THIS
I am wayyyy too self aware for CBT to feel effective, if anything it made me feel guilty for every single thing I ever thought
Yeah CBT used to treat a chronic pain condition is an absolute nightmare.
It treats your natural responses to what's physically happening to you as invalid and irrational.
It assumes that you have 'control' over real physiological things….and then what develops is shame.
i LOVE the idea of the âyes, andâ approach!!! itâs a good way to think by yourself. sitting on the couch feeling afraid of the day, fatigue bc of it, depression cuz of that. instead of saying âwtf am i gonna doâ, thinking âi am afraid yet exhaustedâŠAND i am doing this and this, and if i just continue xyz then i can go from thereâ type of thing. again, rather than not gettint up at all bc of fear; or not doing work at work bc of anxiety-sourced rage or so on.
I was offered counselling after experiencing my first mental health difficulties following the birth of my son. I'd been through an extreme, and frightening period of psychosis, at a really vulnerable time in my life, and my baby's life. I can still remember the therapist drawing a diagram about thoughts and actions for me, and explaining what was trying to be achieved. I was asked about my thought patterns . . . I had none!! My mind was a blank. I hadn't experienced psychosis because I'd got unhelpful thought patterns, I'd just had an awful chemical upheaval. I was so shocked that the therapist wasn't interested in how I felt about the life changing period I'd just been through, but only about thoughts I was having (which, in reality, I just wasn't having). I'm not sure I went back to my next session, I definitely didn't bother with the third. I still feel let down, and that was more than twenty years ago. Luckily, good friends to talk with, and educational sessions with other people with lived experience have given me so much of what I needed – but I've never gone seeking therapy ever again. Maybe one day I will, maybe, maybe not. Thanks for the video – it explained my reaction to CBT perfectly.
CBT can be damaging for trauma survivors or people currently being abused because it very much resembles the invalidating, gaslighting relationships which have caused all of the problems in the first place.
I found BWRT a lot more helpful for my emetophobia than CBT. It's linked to hypnotherapy, which seems to work well for a lot of neurodivergent people like myself – I'm not sure why though! If you have an opinion on BWRT, I'd love to hear it! đ
I was in therapy for a brief amount of time and was expressing, among other things my unwillingness to do a certain task. She basically told me "just do it anyway". I mean, someone was holding me accountable and I WANTED to get better so I pretty much forced myself to do this task and still felt like sh*t, more so bc I had forced it. I told her that I was feeling even worse and she was like "you did it, the rest doesn't matter for now". She said that bc I had set myself this task and was doing it (it is a regular task) I had all the tools I needed and had no further need for therapy and discharged me. I do not keep up with this task and feel like cr*p.
This was NOT the only issue I expressed but was all she focused on so now I'm in EXACTLY the same place
Iâve not been treated with CBT nor has it been suggested to me (thankfully), but I remember researching different therapies because I lived with a family member with severe mental illness and when I got to CBT I was like, well thatâs only helpful if youâre actually safe! As a queer person with uterus and anxiety over climate change and living with said family member, I was pretty disillusioned with the idea. I think like a lot of things in psychology, it probably works for some people in certain situations, but itâs also probably overprescribed because we have a system based on paying the least money for treatment and denying that structural problems exist.
As a patient I hate CBT as well. My emotions are my emotions, the end. Then we can change some of the circumstances, that makes me feel this way, so my emotions change as well. It doesn't mean that I have to deal with my emotions all the time. Sometimes I "send them out in the garden" (my former psychologist's favourite visualisation), which means that I recognise their existence, but not letting them interfere with my life right now.
One of the things, that I have spent the most energy learning in therapy is that MY EMOTIONS ARE VALID, no matter how "unpretty" they may be. That no matter what, the best thing I can do for myself is to love and care for myself.
Knowing my psychologist a little makes it easier to open up. I've had depression since I was 13 (which is 20 years ago), and this means that there's a lot of things, where I simply don't know if it's normal. My psychologist saying "I feel this way too" makes a world of difference.
I wish I had understood this sooner. I had only heard that CBT was evidence-based. When a neuropsychologist told us âyour daughter doesnât have autism but I would recommend CBTâ, I didnât understand what she was saying. I picked up on some other red flags and didnât take her too seriously, but it took me a long time to figure out that she was dismissing our concerns completely. (My daughter is brilliant and I love how her mind works; I wouldnât look for a pathologized diagnosis for her if we werenât desperate for a way to make her path through life and school easier.)
I get itâs not for everyone, but I LOVE those CBT gummies. I wish I lived in a state with legal weed, because I would prefer thc, but yeahâŠ. I have dyslexia
Thank you for elaborating ! Would you be able to talk more about self disclosure in therapy ? I would love to hear more about it !
Have you any recommendations for therapy for an autistic teen with depression? As his mother, I want to help him but I don't really know where to go with him to help him most. He gets medication for his depression.